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Nate Wellman

Started by champion_206, September 02, 2011, 10:48:48 PM

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dartag

interesting article on BASSFAN.   Going to give the internet sites something to talk about until the Classic.

http://www.bassfan.com/news_article.asp?id=4059

Mini

Please remember that BASS is an organization that you have a privilege to fish. It is NOT a right. You can throw out all the legal mumbo jumbo....

They are the governing body NOT the legal system. The officials have every right to interpret the rules as they see fit, NOT a judge.

Once you sign the check over to BASS you live by their rules and their interpretation of said rules.


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Quote from: Mini on September 09, 2011, 11:54:51 AM
Please remember that BASS is an organization that you have a privilege to fish. It is NOT a right. You can throw out all the legal mumbo jumbo....

They are the governing body NOT the legal system. The officials have every right to interpret the rules as they see fit, NOT a judge.

Once you sign the check over to BASS you live by their rules and their interpretation of said rules.



That is true...Right of Refusal....But with money involved they have to be careful not to open themselves up to Civil Court....That is a different ball game altogether....Would this particular case stand up in a court of law if his exclusion was questioned....I don't know..

Now look at me I am a pedestal seat lawyer... ;D

Revtro

Quote from: Eric on September 09, 2011, 08:00:12 AM
Quote from: Revtro on September 08, 2011, 10:09:07 PM

Another thing that has not been brought up is the possibility of the co-angler making this up.  No

And Nate admitting he said what the co-angler made up????????????????

Anyone can lie about intent.  Yeah, it's entirely possible someone could say that something which was intended to be a joke was not a joke.  It happens if people have motive.  But that's not the point.  No one is really pointing the finger at the co-angler, nor am I.  The point is that anyone can lie about anything and without proof nobody will ever know the full truth of it.  Ever.  And yes, I believe Moto is right about possible civil liability especially if Wellman can prove that the report was after the reporting deadline, thus a violation of their own rules.  But again that's not the point I was making.  The only point I was making is that without real proof, none of us will ever know the whole truth.  So why hang Wellman?  We should just accept that BASS did the best they could with the information they had and move on, hoping that Wellman is somehow able to rebound from this.  
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Mini

Quote from: Revtro on September 09, 2011, 12:41:24 PM
Quote from: Eric on September 09, 2011, 08:00:12 AM
Quote from: Revtro on September 08, 2011, 10:09:07 PM

Another thing that has not been brought up is the possibility of the co-angler making this up.  No

And Nate admitting he said what the co-angler made up????????????????

Anyone can lie about intent.  Yeah, it's entirely possible someone could say that something which was intended to be a joke was not a joke.  It happens if people have motive.  But that's not the point.  No one is really pointing the finger at the co-angler, nor am I.  The point is that anyone can lie about anything and without proof nobody will ever know the full truth of it.  Ever.  And yes, I believe Moto is right about possible civil liability especially if Wellman can prove that the report was after the reporting deadline, thus a violation of their own rules.  But again that's not the point I was making.  The only point I was making is that without real proof, none of us will ever know the whole truth.  So why hang Wellman?  We should just accept that BASS did the best they could with the information they had and move on, hoping that Wellman is somehow able to rebound from this.  

Why hang him? I dont want the kid to die....I just want the proper person to win the tournament and get the berth to the Classic.

But ask yourself honestly....would you fish a tournament that he was entered in? I dont think I would.

Revtro

Come on now...It's a figure of speech.  Yeah, I'd fish against him. 
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Revtro

Although I'll never get the chance because well...I suck.   :P
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djkimmel

C'mon now. You just don't want to spend a $1,000 on an entry and another couple thousand on expenses when you can just drive down the road and fish Lake St. Clair! Where you catch plenty of bass!

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Revtro

LOL  Touche!  Speaking of, I'm having withdrawals because I couldn't get out this weekend! 
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1javelin

Actually I think it is a $2,000 entry minimum, $1,000 to fish and at least $1,000 to the guy with the biggest fish ;D

Now I've never been one to convict someone or hold it over their head, cause I am a person that knows what second chances are made of.  But his second chance shouldn't be able to come for at least a year, like FLW handled it.  He hasn't rebuked any of the statements made, therefor he is admitting guilt by omission in my opinion.  Ask for the polygraph test if you really are innocent.

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Quote from: dartag on September 08, 2011, 06:16:15 PMLast year when the guy got caught putting weights in fish a lot of people at work and friends asked me if I did that. 
I can't tell they weren't fisherman. Otherwise they would have asked if you prefer using tungsten over lead for that purpose.   :D
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cameraguy

The people at BASS are reasonable and intelligent. They had more information than anybody. They made the best decision with what they had to work with and it is their decision to make. Good enough for me.
Who is gonna win the World Series?

Mini

I think you are giving them WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT Mark!

This is the type of stuff that will come out now...

Ish Monroe - "All B.A.S.S. had to do was DQ him for the event and sweep it under the table. Now it's a rules infraction with tons of questions. I'm not a cheater, but hey, now I can buy a 4-pounder and take a $2,500 fine and probation to win the event? Sign me up."

Do we want this to be the perception of the sport?

And to answer your question Mark....the Detroit Tigers in 6 :)

Mini

FWIW I consider Ish's comment to be a joke. NOT Wellman's.

Because now I have to think of Wellman's comment as nothing more than him expressing his envy!

At least until he tells another tale.

bassmandan

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sterk149

This just in - 2012 hottest new option for tournament bass boats - the on-board Credit card scanner - so when your partner gets that hog during a tournament and your dad is low on pocket cash - no porblem just slide your credit card through the scanner and you instantly have a hog in your livewell and it credits you parnters account that way there is no having to come up with " its only a joke excuse " cost of this new option = " Priceless "
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LAPORTE

Really ? ... Lets put this to rest already. Dan Please stop the madness
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djkimmel

I've been hoping people will just get tired of beating the horse and let it take itself out to pasture.

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Revtro

Agreed.  I was just about to say something.  I think it's time to chill out about this topic before it gets too out of hand.  If people want to keep banging on Wellman, I think there's a Facebook page for that.   :P
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Unless clearly stated as such, opinions expressed by Dan Kimmel on this forum are not the opinions or policies of The Bass Federation of Michigan.

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