fluorocarbon & spinning gear

[bob o]

yea, i saw gary's seminar too that's what got me thinkinh about changing to 8lb for cranking. i will be trying invisx this year.

[thedude]

I used the Invisx 12lb a lot last year on my casting rods. Liked the line a lot, but wasn't happy with the abrasion resistance. i lost a jig when i tossed it over a dock piling and 4 or 5 "yo-yo" attempts with the line sliding across the piling wore through the line and the jig just fell into the water. This was out of the water, old wood - no mussels or barnacles or anything.

Havent found a floro i really like yet. Lake Fork Tackle has a new one out that is supposed to be super limp - its a floro/co hybrid, but supposed to have the same attributes as floro - sinking, low stretch. Basically its floro around a copolymer core.

I just saw that gamma released a new floro as well which i would like to try.  Edge was about the toughest all around floro i ever used, but it was way stiff. Great for leaders or casting gear, not so much for spinning. The new stuff is supposed to be super limp - its called Gamma Touch http://www.gammafishing.com/fishing.cfm?product=2146

[Cheetam]

Last I heard Gamma was dropping their fishing line products to focus on their core business which Is tennis strings.  They may be looking to sell the fishing business, though.

[LGMOUTH]

I used the Invisx 12lb a lot last year on my casting rods. Liked the line a lot, but wasn't happy with the abrasion resistance. i lost a jig when i tossed it over a dock piling and 4 or 5 "yo-yo" attempts with the line sliding across the piling wore through the line and the jig just fell into the water. This was out of the water, old wood - no mussels or barnacles or anything.

Here is a link for Seaguar that shows you the attributes of each line (seaguar line). This will show you which line is best for your needs. As you will see the Abrazx has the best abrasion resistance of their line and it is the limpest.
http://www.seaguar.com/products/the-right-line.htm

Havent found a floro i really like yet. Lake Fork Tackle has a new one out that is supposed to be super limp - its a floro/co hybrid, but supposed to have the same attributes as floro - sinking, low stretch. Basically its floro around a copolymer core.

Here is a quote from the myths section on the seaguar website.
MYTH: Fluorocarbon coated nylon has all the invisibility of 100% fluorocarbon.
FACT: It can help some, but clear coating a red car, still shows the red underneath.
I know copolymer lines are soft and strong but they are not invisible like flourocarbon lines but they are still good lines

Here is a link to the myths on flourocarbons.
http://www.seaguar.com/seaguar-community/fluorocarbon-myths.htm

[FishermanJohn]

I have BPS 6# fluoro on my finesse spinning combo right now and I have not had any problems with knot strength or break-offs.  It casts easily, is very limp, and does not have much line twist.  I am happy with its abrasion resistance and sensitivity for tube and senko fishing.

I use P-line fluoro for my leaders (with power-pro mainline) and as my primary line on several baitcasters.  I have used the 8, 12, and 15# for crankbaits and jigs and am very satisfied by its performance.

[LGMOUTH]

 Ive used the bps flourocarbon and It is nice, but again I will bring up the diameter of it. The 6lb is .009 and you could go up to the 10lb seagaur for the same diameter.

[thedude]

I used the Invisx 12lb a lot last year on my casting rods. Liked the line a lot, but wasn't happy with the abrasion resistance. i lost a jig when i tossed it over a dock piling and 4 or 5 "yo-yo" attempts with the line sliding across the piling wore through the line and the jig just fell into the water. This was out of the water, old wood - no mussels or barnacles or anything.

Here is a link for Seaguar that shows you the attributes of each line (seaguar line). This will show you which line is best for your needs. As you will see the Abrazx has the best abrasion resistance of their line and it is the limpest.
http://www.seaguar.com/products/the-right-line.htm

Havent found a floro i really like yet. Lake Fork Tackle has a new one out that is supposed to be super limp - its a floro/co hybrid, but supposed to have the same attributes as floro - sinking, low stretch. Basically its floro around a copolymer core.

Here is a quote from the myths section on the seaguar website.
MYTH: Fluorocarbon coated nylon has all the invisibility of 100% fluorocarbon.
FACT: It can help some, but clear coating a red car, still shows the red underneath.
I know copolymer lines are soft and strong but they are not invisible like flourocarbon lines but they are still good lines

Here is a link to the myths on flourocarbons.
http://www.seaguar.com/seaguar-community/fluorocarbon-myths.htm

yeah, i didn't mean to imply that it was completely invisible - but fair being fair, lets assume its diameter is 50% floro, 50% copoly core - for 6 or 8lb line the "visible" portion is basically a similar diameter to 3lb test line.  I think its fair to call it "virtually invisible".

[BryanP]

San Dimas High School Football Rules

What???

I think he means "O'Doyle Rules!"

[BryanP]

There are quite a few misconceptions out there about fluorocarbon and many have noted.  Another is that it's invisible.  While it's definitely less visible than mono or copolymer, it's not 100% invisible.  Which is kind of the idea behind the P-Line Halo that Dan Kimmel is using.  They made it a mist green to help camo it even more. 

I also use the KVD spray religiously, and have for 8-9 years or whenever it came out.  Greg Mangus turned me on to it back then and it definitely helps.  I don't know that I'd say it takes care of twist, but it definitely conditions the line and makes it more manageable.  The single best thing you can do with Fluorocarbon on spinning reels is to ALWAYS close the bail manually and pull the line tight before reeling.  This sounds like a lot of work but once you start doing it, it becomes second nature.  Another thing I'd recommend is to use a larger spool reel and don't fill it quite as full as you normally will.  I routinely use 10 pound and sometimes even 12 pound P-Line 100% Fluorocarbon on spinning tackle with no problems at all.  I've been using the 10 and 12 pound on a 3000 size Team Daiwa Fuego, but I've also used it on the 2500 size Team Daiwas with no problem as well.