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Author Topic: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**  (Read 4581 times)

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spinnerbation


**Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**

It has come to my attention that all passengers fishing border waters (Lake St Clair, Detroit / St Clair Rivers, Lake Erie etc) need to have an I-68 permit. In the past it was always understood by most that only the Boater needed this permit and it covered all passengers.

However, this was either never the case or the regulations have since changed. I was personally informed by a Customs & Border Protection Officer that ALL passengers in any pleasure fishing vessel need to have this permit regardless of where you’re fishing, whether or not you come to shore, and what your citizenship is. Everyone is required to have it now.


Basically what it comes down to is if you're going to be in MI Waters at any time, Boater or Non, you need your own individual I-68 permit.

Just thought I would give everyone a heads up about this if you weren’t aware of it. Give their office a call at the following if you have any questions or would like to confirm this for yourself.

313-442-0200
« Last Edit: July 05, 2013, 12:37:50 PM by spinnerbation »
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Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 05:37:28 PM »

Yesterday I fished Lk. Erie on the Canadian side and called in for the first time to the check-in number.  The lady I talked to was very polite, took down my info, even answered questions about me bringing my dog across if I wanted to, then gave me my Number if I was stopped.  I asked if I needed anything else, and she said no.
Now I do know you need an enhanced drivers lisc. or passport, but nothing was said about the I-68.  I got one several years in a row awhile back to cover myself, but then heard I did not need it after the Passport/lisc. came out.
Bottom line, who knows what old law will be pulled out that will now maybe/maybe not be enforced. 
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Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013, 08:04:13 PM »

I walleye fished with my son and a friend thursday and friday. We called in each day with no problems.   Steve Clapper
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spinnerbation

Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2013, 08:59:21 PM »

I feel like this is a case where the left hand hasn't got a clue what the right hand is doing! lol

Because what prompted me to investigate this a little further was when I got bamboozled at the border last year when I crossed over for the FLW Tour Open. They wouldn't have pulled me in if I had had my I-68.

In the end they told me they can't make me get it, but if I was caught without one...So I don't even know what to think now...
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Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 09:54:05 AM »

If you talk to five different officers you will get five different answers. I have called in three times this year so far, no problems. Never was told I need an I-68 card. I don't worry anyway as I have a passport. Honestly if I was one of the masses I would not worry about it unless I was landing on shore.
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spinnerbation

Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 01:10:50 PM »

I agree, I really think it’s all in who you speak with. Here’s where I think the confusion is coming from…

When I called, I am calling the CPB office at the Tunnel or Bridge (depending who I am able to get through to on a given day). Every time I call that number I provided above, I get the same answer, everyone needs the I-68.

However, if I am not mistaken, the # to call to report you will be crossing the border by boat is a call center and not the CPB office directly. You speak with a Reporting Agent rather than a CPB Officer.

The Agent’s that you call in the morning don’t ask for I-68 because you are crossing into Canada. And the Canadian call in line is a completely different governing body in two separate countries. So naturally they wouldn’t need to ask for the US I-68 document because it doesn’t even apply in Canadian waters.

This only applies to anyone Canadian, US or otherwise who plans to be in a boat in Michigan waters fishing, and the CPB office has maintained every time I call that everyone needs to have it.
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spinnerbation

Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 01:14:13 PM »

I don't fully understand it all, or see the necessity of it beyond it being a money grab, I'm only relaying the information that has been presented to me multiple times in an attempt to put some heads together to try and get an understanding of it.
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Team houston

Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 01:42:41 PM »

I believe you are correct. The other number you speak of is SPECIFIC for fishing Canadien waters and was set up about three years ago.
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Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 02:27:03 AM »

Still much confusion and disinformation over these customs and border protection topics. Part of the confusion are the different requirements for different actions from two different governments involved. Lets get that straight first, and as far as the I-68 form - this is language from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) website on the Canadian Border Boat Landing (I-68) Program:
There is no requirement that boaters obtain Form I-68. However, boaters who choose not to obtain Form I-68 must report, in person, for inspection by a CBP Officer at a port-of-entry each time they enter the United States. See below from Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements for how CBP defines that you have entered the United States by boat in the way that requires that you report to CBP for inspection.

What Everyone Must Know:
  • There are Canadian government requirements for when you leave U.S. waters and cross into Canadian waters.
  • There are United States government requirements for when you leave Canadian waters and cross into U.S. waters.
  • There are Canadian government requirements if you land on Canadian soil from U.S. land or water.
  • There are United States government requirements if you land on U.S. soil from Canadian land (or water under certain circumstances).

The first three are the ones most of us will be impacted by most often on the Lake St. Clair system unless you are someone who never leaves U.S. waters after launching from the U.S. In that case, none of this applies to you of course.

DISCLAIMER: Nothing I post can guarantee what will happen in your specific situation. I contact official numbers and pull information from official websites. They are subject to change, interpretation and exceptions that can't all be covered here. Everyone who boats on or crosses international borders is responsible to know each country's border requirements.

Rather than try to cover every single possibility, I'm going to address the most common situation we find ourselves contending with when fishing the Lake St. Clair system (SCRLSCDR - St. Clair River, Lake St. Clair, Detroit River) - particularly launching from somewhere in the U.S. and boating across the International border without actually landing in Canada. I touch on a little more but requirements WILL be different than below if you launch from Canada and come to the U.S., or you are not a U.S. citizen.


Approximate Definitions:
Entering (or Arriving in) Canada for our purposes on the SCRLSCDR system lately means crossing the International border by any means from the U.S. onto Canada water whether you actually 'land in Canada' or not.

Landing in Canada generally means, but is not limited to - stepping onto Canadian soil, tying to or boarding a Canadian-registered boat or having someone board your boat from a Canadian-registered boat, possibly anchoring or planting poles (Power-Pole, Talon) into Canadian bottomland under the SCRLSCDR system, tying to a Canadian dock or marina, taking on any property or persons from a Canadian/foreign boat into your boat.

Entering (or Arriving in) the U.S. for our purposes on the SCRLSCDR system means crossing the International border from Canadian water onto U.S. water.

Note: There are different requirements for Landing in Canada by water than by air or by land, particularly if you are towing a boat. You will need to review U.S. Customs and Border Protection information and Canadian Border Services Agency information to make sure you are compliant.

General Note:
All of the special programs that assist with border crossings from the U.S. to Canada, or Canada to the U.S. for boating require that everyone on board has the same pre-approved program membership for the program exception to be valid. That goes for the CANPASS program (Canadian program), the Canadian Border Boat Landing (I-68) Program (U.S. program) or NEXUS (joint U.S. - Canada program). For draw tournaments and pro-am / boater-co-angler tournaments this won't really work in most cases.


Please read the following three sections closely as they apply to all of us - unless EVERYONE on your boat that particular trip is a registered, card-carrying member of the CANPASS or NEXUS programs whereupon you can call in early by following the program guidelines (I-68 only applies to returning to the U.S. not entering/arriving or landing in Canada):

Entering or Arriving in Canada
If you are a U.S. citizen and you leave a U.S. port/boat launch by boat to fish on the SCRLSCDR system, if you Enter Canada by water by crossing the International border and you do not plan on landing on Canadian soil you must immediately stop and contact the Canadian Telephone Reporting Centre at 1-888-CANPASS (226-7277). You only have to call once per day as long as you do NOT take on additional persons or any goods. You will need your MC number, the names, citizenship and DOB of everyone on board (Canadian format yyyy/mm/dd). You will be asked a series of questions. After recording the information provided, the Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) officer at the TRC will determine whether further verification or examination is required. If no examination is necessary, the CBSA officer will provide a report number to the owner/operator. Write that number down and keep it with you all day. You do not have to report again that day unless you take on someone else or reportable goods onto your boat. If you land on U.S. soil and go back into Canadian water that day you must report in. Most people report that this process gets easier and faster each time you do it. See the Reporting Requirements for Private Boaters Fact Sheet for the latest accurate official information from Canada. Make sure you read: Never leave home without acceptable identification and Identification documents required, and take additional work in this area very serious if you intend to take anyone under 18 into Canadian water - see Bringing children into Canada.

Failure to report may result in detention, seizure or forfeiture of the vessel and/or monetary penalties. The minimum fine for failing to report to the CBSA upon entry to Canada is CAN$1,000. This has happened to at least two boaters that I'm aware of though they were on Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.

Organizing a local boating event?
Are you organizing a local boating event or fishing derby and wonder how reporting requirements may impact your participants? Contact the TRC as soon as possible at 1-888-226-7277 to discuss clearance procedures for your participants. Ask for the TRC superintendent who can assist you and your participants in complying with reporting regulations, so you can enjoy your time on the water this summer. So, tournament directors may be able to help out by proactively contacting Canada before their event.

Landing in Canada
If you are a U.S. citizen and you intend to land on Canadian soil or you end up landing for some reason (see definition above - this includes Walpole Island territories), you are required to report to a CBSA designated marine reporting site. Upon arrival at a CBSA designated marine reporting site, call the Telephone Reporting Centre (TRC) at 1-888-226-7277 from the phone provided to obtain clearance. You will want to know ahead of time which marinas are part of the designated reporting program, or where an official Canadian crossing location exists. This is subject to change so I won't try to list them. I believe Belle River Marina may still be a reporting station as of last year, and there are border stations at the major bridges, across from Algonac Ferry, Marine City Ferry and I believe Amherstburg. To get a list of the designated telephone reporting marine sites, call 1-888-226-7277 before you arrive in Canada.

Entering (or Arriving in) the United States
From Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements: Pursuant to 19 CFR 4.2, operators of small pleasure vessels, arriving in the United States from a foreign port or place to include any vessel which has visited a hovering vessel or received merchandise outside the territorial sea, are required to report their arrival to CBP immediately (see 19 U.S.C. 1433).

Also from Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements:
Any small pleasure vessel leaving a United States port into international or foreign waters, without a call at a foreign port, does not satisfy the foreign departure requirement. Therefore, certain fishing vessels, cruises to nowhere, or any vessel that leaves from a United States port and returns without calling a foreign port or place, has not departed the United States.

For our purposes, if you are a U.S. citizen who leaves a U.S port/boat launch on the SCRLSCDR system, fishes by boat without meeting the above requirements, you do NOT have to report back to the U.S. CBP upon your return to the U.S. that day. This will cover the majority of us for U.S. reporting requirements who run our boats across the International border just to fish without Landing in Canada or taking on merchandise or persons from foreign boats.


If you are a U.S. citizen and you trailer your boat by land into Canada, or you do go ashore in Canada at times, the I-68 (Canadian Border Boat Landing Permit) program will assist you with generally quicker crossings because it is designed for boaters who land in Canada and return to the U.S. The I-68 also works for certain defined non-U.S. citizens under limited circumstances. It is good for one year at a time. You apply in person for background check - $16 fee or $32 for multiple family members. I-68 is a U.S. CBP program for reporting to the U.S. not Canada. It does not change your reporting requirements for entering or landing in Canada.

I have also had Canadian (CBSA) officers ask me if I have an I-68 when I have trailered by boat into Canada in the past because part of the issue is the Canadians want to know that you do not plan on selling your boat to a Canadian citizen/resident without doing it properly. When you get the I-68 permit you are stating that you know if you are bringing merchandise into the U.S. you know you MUST report it to U.S. Customs. I got the impression the Canadians expected that you also knew you had to report any merchandise you bring into to Canada such as a boat for sale. I haven't trailered over to Canada in a number of years so I don't know if anything has changed there though they do check your vehicle and boat trailer license plates.


For acceptable ID as I've said before, you want to either 1. carry your U.S. passport with you at all times, or 2. an enhanced drivers license from Washington, Michigan, New York or Vermont; or a government issued photo ID and official certified copy of your birth certificate to prove citizenship. I prefer the 2nd options because I'm less likely to lose or soak my Michigan enhanced drivers license, and I have cheaply ordered several extra certified copies of my birth certificate from my county clerk as a backup even though the Michigan enhanced drivers license has a U.S. citizenship verification. I can put one in a baggie and keep it with me. It has to be a stamped copy, not a copy you made on a copy machine. A valid NEXUS card will also work for proving your identity if you have one of those. $50 good for 5 years I believe.
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Re: **Important Message for Michigan BFL Competitors Regarding I-68!!**
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 02:52:19 AM »

Always remember that the burden of proof is on each of us as to whether we landed or not in a way that requires reporting or in-person reporting. The Canadians have been able to determine when people have or haven't physically crossed the border when they've called in by cell phone. I'm also aware of at least one person who got a letter from the U.S. CBP stating he was seen landing in Canada on a day that they did not have a record of him reporting in to CBP upon return to the U.S.

Both countries have the right to board and search your boat when you are in their waters. They can also decide to require that you proceed to a face-to-face inspection with an agent at any time. Answering only the questions asked, and being patient and courteous usually goes a long ways towards deciding how any interaction with the agencies goes.

I have seen with my own eyes one incident at a larger tournament where a bass tournament angler had a real bad day with U.S. CBP officers he upset enough to have his boat boarded and be physically detained. They apparently weren't happy with his responses and behavior towards them.

Having 5 or 6 U.S. border patrol officers tackle you in your bass boat in front of lots of people is not what I call a good day on the lake. Don't argue with them... or you may miss your weigh in.

Anything beyond a phone call or a few questions seems incredibly rare but they have happened a few times. Take it from a redhead who has spent time in the back of a police car instead of weighing in or attending a mandatory pre-tournament meeting ;D - know the various laws and follow them all the time. As long as you aren't a redhead, you will probably never have anything beyond a few questions over the phone interfere with your fishing day!

If you are a redhead... we can swap stories and help each other cope! :D
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