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? Creature Baits ? use them or not!
« on: March 26, 2009, 04:08:54 PM »

I was wondering if big creature baits like strike kings tube lizards or big 10" power worms or really any big bait would really work here in michigan? i have also heard of big fish being caught on 7-9 in swim baits in rhode island... would they work here too? ive realized that anything over 5" is to big unless its a senko or something like it! most of my fish come on plastics that r 3"-5"!
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 04:18:08 PM »

I have caught 6 inch bass on large jerk baits so I really don't think size will always be a negative....
When you go out for the day try both large and small baits...I believe the Mantra about matching the size of the forage, but that may not always hold true...You have to give the fish what they want, and that may not alway line up with Dock talk or fishing shows....
I was thinking about getting some of those big ol worms myself to try...Heck it would be fun just to throw them..It would definetly freak out your boat partner for the day....
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Re: ? Creature Baits ? use them or not!
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 04:33:47 PM »

you are right, 10"+ worms don't work in michigan..... never have never will. Keep it moving people, nothing to see here. ;)
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 07:18:14 PM »

Yeah, leave the big worms and creature baits at home.  Or better yet... send them to me and I'll dispose of them properly.   ;D

I have a pretty good arsenal of 10" worms and large creatures from Zoom, Sweet Beaver, Yamamoto, etc...
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 07:42:37 PM »

Yeah been there......... Partner ( brother) pulls out 10" power worms and starts throwing them. I think he is wasting time ,then the next thing I know I got one on my line. Now never leave home without them. Also same thing happend with those yamamoto Flappin hawgs.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 08:20:17 PM »

 Big baits catch big fish!(they also catch those pesky little buzzards too) but i think the big fish are very secretive on there movements(thats why they're big) and select too eat certain things. a big meal will do. but further than that look at where your throwing that bait. if its a secluded area it doesnt matter if its a 3" stik or a 12" worm that fish is going to use that opportunity too eat it. i think the problem with the big baits is that we cant always use them where the big fish are.(yeah we can carolina rig a big worm on the drops but who wants to do that)? we have too weed through the smaller fish and it frustrates most people. they figure i can do this on a 7" worm why throw this crazy10 or 12" deal?? alot of it is confidence in things. and your instincts.-skeeterman- keep throwing them it WILL work!
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 08:26:15 PM »

What kind of weight are you guys using to get 10" power worms down?
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 08:35:28 PM »

3/16 to 1/8.  Depends how fast you want to work it and what fall you want.  I love using the 7" senkos.  they are huge compared to the 4-5" versions.  Like to dead stick them.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 08:55:21 PM »

On my 10" worms i usually throw 3/16 or 1/4 ounce. they are a great bait to throw at night. as is a big stik bait. if you throw that lighter weight it lets that baits kinda flutter to the bottom and the fish have a longer time to look at it till it falls in front of there face and BOOM they eat it.(thats if your night fishing with it.during the day id go with my next point). if you were fishing it shallower or during the day, id go with 3/8 or maybe 1/2 to really make the fish react to it as it darts past there face.-skeeterman-
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 09:02:54 PM »

3/4oz tungsten on 50lb braid...... ;D
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 09:16:51 PM »

 Thats my boy!!! makem eat it!-skeeterman-
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2009, 12:24:49 AM »

3/4oz tungsten on 50lb braid...... ;D

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2009, 12:47:09 PM »

hey thanks guys, i guess i will just keep them in my tackle box for a day that when im feeling lucky!
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Re: ? Creature Baits ? use them or not!
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 01:35:09 PM »

Also a good idea to try them on a day when all you've caught is small bass, or you aren't catching any bass anyway. I've seen plenty of 11" bass caught on 11" worms, but I've also seen plenty of BIG bass caught on big musky baits.

I've seen smallmouth bass chasing gizzard shad that looked like the size of a small keeper bass!! I've had a not too big largemouth spit up two full grown rats!! Plenty of times, if a bass can get it in its mouth, it will try to eat it.

You'll never know for sure if something will work or not unless you try it a few times...
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 03:04:14 PM »

I always use 5" or bigger creature baits, mainly because I don't fish clear water like you have in Michigan, or other parts of Ohio. I'm looking for baits to move water. My favorite tubes even for flipping are the Yum VibraKing tubes in the 5" size. Those ribs I think make a difference, plus they have a solid head.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2009, 03:06:04 PM »

I've had a not too big largemouth spit up two full grown rats!!

DK, are you making this up!?  Rats?  Really?

I agree a bass will eat anything it can fit in it's mouth but how often due they get a chance to eat a rat?

I once read or saw on TV and guy saying that he didn't know why bass eat frog baits.  The number of times a bass actually has a chance to eat a frog is very rare.

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2009, 03:26:36 PM »

I've had a not too big largemouth spit up two full grown rats!!

DK, are you making this up!?  Rats?  Really?

I agree a bass will eat anything it can fit in it's mouth but how often due they get a chance to eat a rat?

I once read or saw on TV and guy saying that he didn't know why bass eat frog baits.  The number of times a bass actually has a chance to eat a frog is very rare.

Cy

The pond i grew up across from was loaded with frogs.  Big ones.  In the summertime when i slept with the window open, you would hear them croakin all night.  the funny part was you would be sitting there almost asleep listenin to croak, croak, croak..........croak, croak, croak.........croak, croak, SPLOOSH.........silence.

the same pond used to completly weed over on one end in the mid summer with that thich green carpet of weeds.  There was a good population of mice that made there home in the soft mud shoreline and they would actually walk around on that weed mat.  on more than one occasion i saw bass come up and steal a mouse as it nibbled on a treat.

If you guys are still with me here, i will also say that one day while sitting on the shore bobber fishing and watching swallows skim the surface for bugs, a bass jumped up and got one of them bad boys, too.

I also seen a big pike take a duckling on White Lake in Highland. 

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2009, 04:48:32 PM »

I don't make stuff up when it comes to fishing. Real life really is stranger than fiction.

One of the coolest things was the day I watched a 2 lb bass chase a big Leopard frog around the back end of Dickinson L. I had no idea how fast a frog could swim until that day!!

Couldn't even see its legs moving most of the time!!
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2009, 06:47:39 PM »

About 3 years ago fishing metro beach in the boat basin there was a mother duck swimming with 5 ducklings and after reeling in my spinnerbait to make another cast i heard a big splash and when i turned around there was one less duckling....things that make you go hmmmmmmm. And for bass nailing muskie baits it happens @ least every outing for us when we start trolling for muskies using bucktails and big 6 to 8" jointed baits. Biggest smallie came on a jointed plug on the belle river hump last year a 5 1/2lber. And for a parting joke i can remember a old timer telling me this one...and i apologize in advance.....2 old guys r in a boat trolling for muskies and a woman is @ the end of the dock in hysterics "help me she yelled, my poodle jumped in the water and a big muskie came along and ate it!" 1 of the men turned and asked her "What color was it?" Match the hatch boys match the hatch
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2009, 08:33:42 PM »

LMAO!!!!
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