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More on So You Want to be a Tournament Angler
« on: February 28, 2009, 03:10:44 PM »

An interesting article about the realities of becoming a tournament bass pro that fits my knowledge is power belief of saying things like they are for persons who have the aspiration - from Gary Yamamoto's Inside Line:

How Healthy is Professional Bass Fishing?

By Ken Smith
Central Staff Writer

February 20, 2009

I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but if you're thinking about going pro, you better go into it with your eyes open. Read the article...
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Re: More on So You Want to be a Tournament Angler
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 10:39:57 AM »

Good article. I think most of most of his  budget assumptions were on the low side though. Making it even harder to survive the tour.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2009, 01:55:39 PM »

Great article he wrote there and really puts things out there for you. I wonder how many guys want to do that for a living? I know i would but the mental aspect of it could be draining. We all love to fish but how many would risk everything they have to try and make it?-skeeterman-
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 02:52:22 PM »

Great article but I agree the estimates were low on total costs. I know it cost a lot more than his estimates in gas. I would think more of about 12,000 miles divided by 12 mpg gets you to 1000 gallons at 3.50-4 bucks a pop puts your fuel more around 3500-4000 bucks plus driving around town with less mpg and idling while waiting to put in/take out. Best guess from experience with Elite anglers was the total cost was $55,000 for entry fees and about $20,000-$25,000 for fuel, lures, lodging and other things so look at them spending more like $75,000-$80,000 just to fish last year. Just to fish the southern opens we probably spent about 3500 bucks a tournament. $1000 entry fee and 2500 for fuel, lodging, etc. but I think it could be done much cheaper.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 04:04:04 PM »

Good read thanx for posting that, I think theres alot of peaple that REALY need to read and absorb what was wrote.
My input on it would be dont think about quitting your day job to be a tournament guy or full time pro and hopefully your winnings will help your hobby be more affordable thus allowing you more time on the water.
if you are one of the lucky few who make an "ACTUAL" profit from tournament fishing enjoy it becouse its likeley to be short lived unless you have a deep pocket/major cash sponsor backing you.
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Re: More on So You Want to be a Tournament Angler
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 01:14:07 PM »

I don't want to shut anyone down who wants to be a bass pro, but I do agree with the 'eyes wide open' approach.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 02:51:47 PM »

Sure would be nice, but I would have to hit the lotto...
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 03:07:02 PM »

Looks like the goal of fishing on the pro level is a pipe dream at best. Why did I have to get the passion for bass fishing and not something cheaper like billiards or bowling? I cant even afford a boat and if it stays that way I might not be tournament fishing much longer. Being stuck on the back in big tournaments is better than nothing but gets old fast and still costs a ton.

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009, 03:17:24 PM »

You could cuts costs by
1. Sleeping in the rod locker
2. Trolling Motor only
3. Eating your culls
 ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 06:06:52 PM »

...guess I'll keep the day job... :o  Another cost cutting measure is to hitchhike and only accept rides from people that have a trailer hitch...gas cost would be way down!
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 01:27:30 PM »

I know I will be hanging onto my job.  If I can make a few bucks fishing, that's a bonus.  It sends me a message that this bad economy is affecting everyone across the country.  I personally haven't fished too many tournaments in the last 3 to 4 years.  I try to pick and choose which ones to enter.  Fishing first and foremost should be for fun and relaxation.  Tournament fishing can sometimes take away from that.  The pressure and the stress to do well and cash a check can be extreme.  I wouldn't be able to fish if it weren't for my regular job which also pays the mortgage and utilities.  It is going to be interesting how the economy will be affecting the local tournaments in the area.  If fees don't come down, you can probably count on the participation being down too.  People are going to spend their money more wisely and try to keep as much as possible in their pockets.

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 03:43:45 PM »

    As always Dan you came up with a great article that brought some realities to life.  There are many questions to be asked however having friends that play this game at the highest levels they will be honest and tell you that there is a lot to risk making the jump to this level.. But if you are truely good enough the risk is a little more managable.  For instance even though most pros do not have cash deals that actually pay them to fish most do have some sort of boat and motor deal.  Also I dont know about everyone but for those I know all of there entry fees are paid for.  So in this article that means of the 67000 or whatever 55000 is taken care of.  Pure fishing jumps on every pros back most pay nothing to use there product the rest have huge percentages off.  Go to the big campgrounds while the tour is in town and you will see hundreds of fisherman so the Hotel fees is a little false.  Is it expensive I guess that is how much money you have but that should not be your worry or the question.  You should worry about competing against some of the best anglers out there.  If each year you do not destroy the people locally you fish against and we are not talking about mccarters KLA trail then dont seriously think that you have a chance.  There are a few anglers around here that have a chance that I think at this but most have families and real jobs and those people would not risk the happiness of thier families to chase a dream. 
    Nothing negative was meant to McCarters KLA Trail just that it is not where you want to make the decision if you arepro material or not

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 04:06:59 PM »

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Re: More on So You Want to be a Tournament Angler
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2009, 09:16:20 AM »

I am going to shoot some holes in this guys theories, and this does not include all anglers either. But you are only looking at the actual fishing side of this sport. These upper tier anglers do more than fish, and have you looked at their shirts? Most do have more than one sponsor and most do not jump right to the Elite levels. They get paid for appearances, seminars and have many incentive clauses in their contracts with sponsors. All this adds up to more income, these guys doing it professionally are a business in themselves, and thus they get a few more write-offs at the end of the year. Many have paid the price getting there though, and only a few will become rich, but it can be done. Take at look at BassZone's in the Zone and look at these guys houses, garages and tackle rooms (makes me wonder were some of the e-bay tackle comes from?).

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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2009, 01:33:45 PM »

So you're telling me there's a chance...

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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2009, 02:39:55 PM »

So you're telling me there's a chance...


Now thats funny right there!!!!
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Re: More on So You Want to be a Tournament Angler
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2009, 03:23:17 AM »

There's always a chance.
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2009, 10:36:40 AM »

And the way I see it, you have at least a 50% chance of making it, because really you either will or you won't.  Not a lot of other options.  66.5% of all fisherman never try and 58.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot!   ;)
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2009, 12:00:54 PM »

Plus there is other factors to consider. If your a stuck-up, know it all type, always blowing your own horn, looking down on others and bristling at constructive criticism, then the odds go way up against you. BUT if your a open minded person who has the ability to enter into conversations without insulting anyone who has a different perspective or opinion, can develop friendly relationships with-in a group of peers and truly value a fresh idea for what it is instead of attacking it because its contrary to what you believe, the odds go WAY UP in your favor, IMO . Look at the top anglers on tour today. Are there any horses butts? Or are the most successful ones nice guys who are approachable, talkative and friendly ?
 The term "Emotional Quotient" comes to mind, and if you haven't heard of it, Google it, especially if my second sentence offended you .
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2009, 09:35:23 PM »

I would be happy to win a BFL on the Boaters side....   ;D
I don't even have enough stick to do that yet....
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