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Title: Fall Turnover
Post by: dashaver63 on September 08, 2010, 08:42:12 PM
Anybody got any tips for fishing during and after the fall turnover? Thats usually a miserable time for me and this year I'm determined to figure it out but I need a couple suggestions to help get that started. With these cooler nights I figure it's coming up pretty quick.
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: djkimmel on September 08, 2010, 09:05:30 PM
Try different lakes. Not all lakes go through a real turnover.

Definitely do rivers. No turnover and I love fall river fishing.

Flipping. Green weeds. Or any wood or docks. Fish slow and close to vertical.

Fish on windy days in the churned up water.
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: TCook on September 08, 2010, 11:46:57 PM
My understanding is its all about the oxygen levels. When the water above the thermocline reaches the same temperature as below the thermolcline on deeper lakes it mixes and decreases the oxygen level throughout the water column. The highest oxygen level will be found in the top couple feet of the lake due to wind mixing in the oxygen so fish extreemly shallow and you should be able to catch some bass. Otherwise fish shallow lakes or rivers and you wont have to deal with the fall turnover.
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: djkimmel on September 09, 2010, 04:22:03 PM
Yes. Water temperature creates different water densities. It is so interesting that water (H2O) has a fairly unique property of getting 'lighter' again when it freezes rather than just getting more heavy as most things do. If this was not the case, meaning water is densest at about 39 degrees F and then gets lighter again until it freezes around 32 degrees F - making it float to the top again - much life on this planet would not be possible as our waters would freeze from the bottom up and solid, instead of from the top down as it actually does!! Yup. I'm a nerd.

Makes you think though... doesn't it?
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: fiker on September 09, 2010, 09:29:30 PM
And..... much of what you said Dan is because of the bond angle created by the bonding of two hydrogen molecules, with one oxygen. 

The bond angle of 104.5 degrees, and the polarity of the bond O-H bond is the culprit.
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: djkimmel on September 09, 2010, 11:15:03 PM
Way to out-nerd me!!! Thanks!!
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: McCarter on September 10, 2010, 12:07:04 AM
so eric bond has something to do with it?

I knew he was up to something!

Try fishing shallow, shallow water doesnt turnover.  just make sure you stay away from the windy side of the lake cuz all that gunk will blow into the shallows, thus defeating the purpose.

McCarter himself :-\'
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: fiker on September 10, 2010, 04:47:59 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: Manxfishing on September 10, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: djkimmel on September 09, 2010, 04:22:03 PM
Yes. Water temperature creates different water densities. It is so interesting that water (H2O) has a fairly unique property of getting 'lighter' again when it freezes rather than just getting more heavy as most things do. If this was not the case, meaning water is densest at about 39 degrees F and then gets lighter again until it freezes around 32 degrees F - making it float to the top again - much life on this planet would not be possible as our waters would freeze from the bottom up and solid, instead of from the top down as it actually does!! Yup. I'm a nerd.

Makes you think though... doesn't it?

It's interesting
I wonder if the fish know this
Because for walleye in the spring 40 degrees in the temp that turns every thing on
In the fall they feed all the way to hard water
Title: Re: Fall Turnover
Post by: matt on September 12, 2010, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: djkimmel on September 08, 2010, 09:05:30 PM
Try different lakes. Not all lakes go through a real turnover.

Definitely do rivers. No turnover and I love fall river fishing.

Flipping. Green weeds. Or any wood or docks. Fish slow and close to vertical.

Fish on windy days in the churned up water.

Ditto on river fishing...I'm wacking the heck out of them right now.The ones I'm pulling out all have pot bellies on them.They've been eating good!