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Title: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: cameraguy on September 13, 2009, 07:54:03 PM
If you like fishing for fall smallmouth bass in northern Michigan, you might want to check out the new video posted on this site.  GreatLakesBass.com head honcho, Dan Kimmel, makes a case for using spinnerbaits to haul in huge bronzebacks.  Plus, Dan explains what to look for when trying to locate areas that have the potential for trophy smallies.

It's in the video section of the website.   It's titled, Burning a Spinnerbait for Fall Smallmouth.    

http://www.greatlakesbass.com/video/video.php (http://www.greatlakesbass.com/video/video.php)
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip
Post by: djkimmel on September 13, 2009, 11:47:32 PM
You know... I stumble along, tripping over my words and saying things like YEEHAW ANOTHER BIGUN... and then cameraguy comes along with his special talent for video and editing and makes me look like I actually have some idea about this fishing thing we're all hooked on. Thanks cameraguy!!

I'll make it convenient for those of you who haven't been fortunate enough yet to travel to one of our many big smallie fishing locations we are blessed with here in the Great Lakes by posting a link to watch the video right here:




One of the main reasons I keep GreatLakesBass.com going is so we can all share fishing stories, tips and techniques with each other. Remember, you can upload your own video on our video service to share with everyone. I'll highlight those our 'panel' chooses for everyone throughout the year. And stay tuned for more Video Fishing Tips.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: fiker on September 14, 2009, 05:12:34 PM
Nice job guys. 
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 14, 2009, 10:57:24 PM
Thanks fiker
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: motocross269 on September 15, 2009, 07:53:20 AM
Great video, you looked very natural on camera..Do I see "Great Lakes Bass Fishing" coming to VS soon??? ;D
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: Cy on September 15, 2009, 08:41:07 AM
I think you guys did a great job on that video!  I love it!  I have a lot of questions for you both that we can talk more about on Sunday too.  I want to know how long you filmed out there to get 10 minutes of good video?  The editing and music are really good too.

Cy
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 15, 2009, 01:02:50 PM
Thanks guys. Means a lot to me. cameraguy is a pro. He is a full-time freelance camera man with a ton of editing experience so he gets 92% of the credit. Whether he can make it or not Sunday is up in the air at the moment, but I can talk about a little more then if he doesn't make it as far as some of things we've done to prepare and get the footage. It's work, but fun work compared to a lot of other things we can be doing :).

cameraguy is the expert as far as equipment (he has a bunch of all types) and getting the right shots, setup, work afterwards. I always feel there's some intuition and art to doing the right things with a camera. He's a natural at that kind of thing.

As far as the future... you just never know. I've put in a bunch of behind the scenes work so opportunities that arise can be attempted. I'm a schemer and sometimes actually get things done ;D. cameraguy has that knowledge to actually do stuff. Put us together and who knows. We are already working on a number of things. Just a matter of doing the work and the time to get it done. I don't spell out much because we also change our minds every other day - safer anymore to just announce it when it's done ;D

I always hope to add to the amount of information available to visitors and members of my web sites. It's fun. I may ask a few of you over the winter for your suggestions and review of some redesign and features. Maybe a few other ideas too. Just depends on the time available :)
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 15, 2009, 01:17:42 PM
AND of course, I would LOVE to have more videos (http://www.greatlakesbass.com/video/) submitted from all of you. It does not have to be a big production. We all have something to offer and share with each other.

I'll be posting more simple and short video over the winter just so we can spend some more fishing time together when we aren't able to actually be on the lake or river.

I will improve the video section of the web site over time to be more user friendly and highlight members submissions better. I do not want to only use Youtube as a video solution. I have learned (the hard way a couple times) that relying too much on others for your services can be very risky and problematic, especially 'free' services. Video is intensive, expensive and somewhat complex to program so it will take some time to get there. I don't have the budget Google or similar companies have to implement that type of thing :)

But like all you, I have the fishing addiction / bug but good, so I'll keep plugging away as long as a bunch of you come hang out here too. Thanks!!
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: Cheetam on September 16, 2009, 09:59:05 AM
Nice vid Dan and Cameraguy.  Good tip on the heavy line.  I don't go as heavy as 25lb, but use 17lb pretty regularly when chucking/burning spinnerbaits (especially the 3/4 ounce baits).
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: River Rat on September 16, 2009, 12:13:23 PM
Very nice and well done gentlemen!  Dan, you make it look so easy that even I may be able to do that!!!

Scott
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 16, 2009, 01:30:00 PM
Thanks guys. Funny River Rat! I bet you are pretty good at the fishing stuff.

As far as the heavier line, a few times the difference in the catch rate has been enough to make me think it can make a difference. I get to the point where I compromise and go with the 17 for all around spinnerbaiting, but I remember the times when that catch rate difference was dramatic and had me wondering if the heavier line helped somehow to make such a difference to the bass. I particularly think of a day on Charlevoix where I was culling all day - 1st place, big bass, and my partner only landed two with the most obvious difference being the line??

The bass won't talk so I can only wonder about it...?
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: bigjc on September 16, 2009, 08:41:32 PM
Nice work gentlemen, only thing that would have made that video better would have been a more handsome host.....I am available on Mondays
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 16, 2009, 09:12:02 PM
How disappointing... Monday is the only day we are not able to tape... ;D
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: Firefighter Jeff on September 17, 2009, 12:11:00 AM
Awesome video Dan  !!!!!  Were you waving at one of your many fans about the 8 minute mark????  You and KVD just can't keep the boats off of you.  lmbo.  I thought it was pretty neat the joyful emotions you had when catching those dandy fish.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: spinninbug on September 17, 2009, 12:07:00 PM
Very nice job guys!
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 17, 2009, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: FF Jeff on September 17, 2009, 12:11:00 AM
Awesome video Dan  !!!!!  Were you waving at one of your many fans about the 8 minute mark????  You and KVD just can't keep the boats off of you.  lmbo.  I thought it was pretty neat the joyful emotions you had when catching those dandy fish.

Thanks Jeff and Wendy. I was actually shaking after that first one and seeing the other 2 actually with it. I was lucky to land 3 big ones in about 20 minutes as soon as we started. I was so excited I ruined some of the tape. Thank goodness cameraguy (Mark) is really good at what he does.

I forget who that was down the edge a little but I try to be friendly when I remember (you know the getting older and forgetful disease ;D). They were looking my way and I can't help but feel a little self conscious when we are taping.

More to come. cameraguy is being very popular right now (getting the good paying kind of work) so it will be a bit before we get another out. I'm looking forward and hoping to see more from all of you!
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: Firefighter Jeff on September 17, 2009, 03:30:29 PM
Hmmmmmm  I'd be interested in seeing the "Ruined" part of the tape !!!!  LOL    ;D
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 17, 2009, 11:06:43 PM
Sorry... that was filed under "BLOOPERS" and subsequently misplaced :o
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: baggerslimm on September 18, 2009, 08:07:08 AM
Nice Job Fellas!!!  I had my little guy watch the video, and he ask me when are we going.. :D :D   I've never been up to that part of Mich butt I will be soon!!  Thanks for the Video!!!  Slimm
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 18, 2009, 12:37:50 PM
North of Ludington across to Alpena is some of the world's best smallmouth bass fishing. Lots of choices. I will be 'testing' more of them in couple weeks (thank goodness).
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: bassinman#1 on September 18, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
Alright Dan, Get some sponsers and a TV slot time, and your on your way. No kidding, your looked and sounded professional. So Bill Dance, Shaw Grisby, and Hank Parker move over!!!!!! Good Job Dan. Now do one at Kent and show us where they are, we got some good tourneys coming up soon. Benny ;D
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 18, 2009, 11:26:54 PM
Thanks Benny! Actually Kent Lake is on our list of lakes we are working with and we've done a little bit out there already for prep work, but after seeing that big largemouth you caught earlier, I would think we'd be calling you for hot spots!?! :o
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: bassinman#1 on September 19, 2009, 08:04:13 AM
Its called "GETTING LUCKY" every now and then. :D
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: matt on September 20, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
Good stuff!

Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: BrianB on September 21, 2009, 10:28:48 AM
Dan
     Looks real good, Looking forward to seeing more.
Brian
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 21, 2009, 01:42:16 PM
Thanks Brian. We will probably use other people in the future and portray how to stuff from general to advanced. And I'm always interested in any tips any of you have to share!!! You are all a wealth of information.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: Mike S. on September 21, 2009, 08:11:04 PM
Nice video, Dan.  I've never been much of a spinnerbait guy, but it looks like time to give it a chance.  Cy told me to watch it, and it was worth it.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: cameraguy on September 21, 2009, 08:33:44 PM
Thanks for the kind words.  As far as the footage NOT seen in the video...somehow it all has mysteriously disappeared...unless enough cash can be drummed up.  D. Kimmel, do you want to start the bidding?  ;D
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 21, 2009, 09:11:59 PM
Sure... but I will just cut to the chase and give my money to Uncle Cleaner. He will know how to handle this travesty.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: Mojo on September 21, 2009, 09:46:58 PM
 ;D

I like that -"he's 92% the reason for the video" all engineering ish Danny !! lol. What rod do you have ? That first 5 lbr really beat up your lure so close to the boat. You and that rod just wore him down. You guys take note, that took good mono, rod and fisherman that didnt lose that fish. Nice work guys - I REALLY HOPE to see more of cameraguy and you producing AND yes - your calm voice Dan is the perfect teaching voice for TV, then when they pound your lure your voice cracks and everyone can hear the weight of the fish in your voice !! Rare ! So consider it bro.

I picked up the Fenwick Elite Series Spinnerbait rod - 6'10" med - its the new hybrid that has the second half being fiberglass and Ive haven't missed a hookset on a spinnerbait or buzzbait yet !!  True. Worth every penny with 10 - 14 lb mono.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 21, 2009, 11:16:15 PM
I was looking for the new great spinnerbait rod for that type of fishing at the time and was trying out an old crankbait rod. It worked, but was too heavy to use tossing big spinnerbaits all day without feeling like I got an unnecessarily hard workout.

I found the perfect rod for me and long-casting spinnerbaits for big smallies early this year when I picked up a Grandt Rods All American Series C10 - {Med-Hvy / LineWt. 10-17} casting rod (http://www.grandtrods.com/store/products.asp?cat=Casting+Rods). Very light. Perfect action for all around spinnerbait use in open water or weeds, particularly when you consider that it is a very sensitive rod. Graphite and made in the US, much nicer rod than the previous brands I've tried.

I made a mistake (something I do about 2 times a year every year seems like) and broke off the top 8 inches so I'm returning it for a replacement. I miss it already now that I'm trying some of my old choices. Noticing the big difference in less weight and much more sensitivity.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: ub2m4 on September 24, 2009, 06:10:49 AM
New to spinnerbait fishing. Great video. Why a white spinnerbait? What other colors would you use and why would you use them? Are there some spinnerbaits better than others? Why painted vs unpainted baits? Thanks in advance for any tips.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 24, 2009, 01:00:55 PM
I've found over the years from my own experience and talking to many accomplished bass anglers that clear water smallmouth bass respond very well and aggressively often to painted spinnerbaits. Especially those not fished for real hard, but spring and fall, I always start with painted baits unless I already suspect the bass are real finicky. Then I go with natural.

I start with all chartreuse in the spring and all white in the fall, again from experience. I'll switch to the other or chartreuse/white combo if I don't get a good reaction.

Always felt that with smallmouth bass that a lot of time it is just a matter of getting their attention and reaction first. Painted spinnerbaits do that real well.

During the summer, for pressured bass, for less than ideal conditions like bluebird cold front skies, I'll usually start with more natural and even smaller spinnerbaits.

I've been using War Eagle brand for quite a while now more than the rest put together. They are mostly made out of stiff piano wire and have a very nice action. I really like their skirt shape and colors. For natural, green shad or mouse is really good.

They use decent hooks. Keep them sharp. They will bend on a big fish and even get wire rust if left wet after the plate finish starts peeling off the wire. I can usually catch a pretty good number of bass, even big ones on them before they start to rust or get bent too many times. They will break if bent too far or too often in one spot.

Because I have a lot of confidence in their attraction to largemouth and smallmouth bass, I just use new ones for tournaments (which I don't fish much right now) and real used ones for fun fishing or practice.

I round nose pliers to keep them in the shape I want. I believe the vibration in the wire gets me more bites from all kinds of fish so I accept and prefer that action over a brand with a much stiffer wire. I've tried a few titanium and other flexible brands, but I have a lot of confidence and experience with the War Eagle so I don't stay away very long.

Some people say titanium never breaks and others I talk to say they break them all the time too so I can't say for sure if they are better due to not using them myself much. I have seen a definite difference in the reaction quite often I get to more flexible wire than stiff wire over many years. Over time, more bites and fish with a more flexible wire. Too flexible and you may lose a lot of fish. War Eagles work for me.

I have tried many real light wire spinnerbaits and they can work, kind of like a finesse bait, but for the big spinnerbait burning for big smallies up north, you want something that will hold up for a while but still have enough erratic action to trigger those light biting followers that might just turn away from a spinnerbait without any extra action. Smallies are notorious followers and I do believe little differences will greatly increase your hookup rate over the course of a season.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 24, 2009, 01:04:05 PM
This is along the same vein that on many days, particularly in the fall, keeping your spinnerbait right at the surface may increase your strike ratio 400 or 500% over someone who slacks off a little and lets their spinnerbait fall a foot or two down before reeling it in.

These little things make a big difference more often than not from my experience and from watching the top level bass anglers do their thing.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: t-bone on September 24, 2009, 01:15:07 PM
I once saw a segment with KVD on Spinnerbaits and he claimed that stopping or killing a spinnerbait was a good way to attract bites. He'd burn it, stop it, jerk it, flutter it - varying things up. Is this something you've tried, did it make any difference?
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on September 24, 2009, 10:12:06 PM
Definitely. The 1st big one when we taped this kept nipping until I did a quick kill flutter. All it took. Watching the bait is fun and important to turn more bass. Keeping in tune with the lure, what the lure is doing is also important.

I try to read the bass' reaction by feel and/or sight.

Like any technique burning has its place as do other variations. Experimenting is always good.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: otis on September 25, 2009, 09:52:28 AM
That is a great video.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: Jighead on October 02, 2009, 01:27:55 PM
Personally, I didn't care for this video.  It was just a brutal reminder that another fall season is upon us and I STILL haven't planned a late season trip to Mullett Lake!  ;D

Seriously Dan,  I can only echo what others have already said.  One question though - Do you have a problem with pike on Mullett with that all white blade?  I've turned away from all white on Clair just because of that.  May have to re-think that now....
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on October 02, 2009, 05:19:34 PM
Just this one pike on this one spot...

Not a lot of pike on Mullett in the spots I fish most.

Painted spinner baits are great up north especially spring and fall but also great anywhere for smallies spring and fall or when you need a kicker fish.
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: fishlady on December 17, 2009, 06:36:08 PM
I will definatly be trying this method in the spring. nice fast way to draw their attention. Thanks for the tip
Title: Re: New Video Fishing Tip - Burning Spinnerbaits for BIG Fall Smallmouth Bass
Post by: djkimmel on December 17, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
You're welcome. The 'research' is ALWAYS enjoyable!!