Did i hear it right? Ike's been DQ'ed.? A definite hot-button topic hey.?
Yea you heard it right. He was towards the bottom of the list to. He had dead fish.
He went to check his fish and 4 were dead, either the livewell pumps broke or were shut off. Apparently he swore and kicked his light pole. If that is what happened that shouldn't result in a dq. Of all the on the water fights between anglers this gets you dq'd under the sportsmanship rule? Doesn't really matter though this classic is almost a joke, not the right type of fishery or time of year to determine the "best" angler in the world.
-Matt
DQ'd for what? I thought dead fish were only deductions. Was the DQ for culling a dead fish?
The flag pole incident was not a real bright move. IMO
Potter
He was DQ'ed for bad sportsmanship. After realizing that he had 4 dead fish (probably his fault for not checking, or accidentally switching off the switch?) he had a hissy fit and swore and busted up his light post.
The tirade, according to Weldon "used very profane language in front of spectators. He removed a running light, which is part of our safety equipment and destroyed it."
He also made a call in to check if he could cull dead fish. He was told it was not against the rules, and I think he culled 2 dead ones. The question was raised if it violated any state rules. I'm not sure on that.
"I totally feel like I'm targeted," he said. "I totally feel like I'm being sabotaged here. I don't know what my options are. I feel like if I don't take a stand, then not only myself but anglers from here on out are going to be open to this, and I'm not going to let that happen."
Well, he is the only angler I have seen act in any way like that, so I don't think any other anglers need to worry too much.
He seem to preoccupied by acting like a doofus for the camera and not worring about fishing, in the most important event of the year.
Obviously I don't care for Ike.
Thanks MBell
I should have waited a minute before posting, (or type faster)I could have saved my question.
Broken pole = bad day. :o
Potter
Him going off on the light pole. although not the best thing he could of done but certainly not bad enough to get a DQ! He had 4 dead fish. To me this brings up a very good topic or argument..... That being how all fisherman have to use a TRITON boat instead of their own sponsor or their own boat. Maybe he wouldn't of had 4 dead fish if he would of had his own boat and clearly knew how to work all the controls. Maybe that is not an exscuese. But I hate how they can't use their own boat. That to me is just rediculus. Like a race car driver qualifiying all year in his car then getting to the Daytona 500 and having to use a tour sponsor car. That is a piece of the fishermans equipment and for them to have to change that equipment in the biggest tournament of their lives doesn't seem right.
QuoteThat being how all fisherman have to use a TRITON boat instead of their own sponsor or their own boat. Maybe he wouldn't of had 4 dead fish if he would of had his own boat and clearly knew how to work all the controls.
He had to fish out of a Triton every event last year and had no problem. Every other angler fishes out of a Triton and had no problem.
I honestly don't know if his actions were enough for a DQ, the rule is open for a lot of interpretation.
But, when so much of your career hinges on how your sponsors feel that you represent their products, it was a bad move. I think he needs some anger managment. ;D >:(
He did a pretty good number on the pole. It looked like he tossed it in the lake although we were distracted at times tonight. We were wondering when the DNR would come out and cite him for littering or pollution or something.
I think it is reasonable to expect more gentlemanly behavior from PROFESSIONAL anglers.
Fishing out of a different boat does throw you, but you know in advance everyone has to do it and they go through operations with you before you go out. It's just one more challenge that you know is coming and you have to prepare for. I'm not crazy about switching boats, trolling motor, outboard, electronics, but it's there so I just think you go in expecting it and being as prepared as you can be to adjust.
They limit rods and tackle too. Just additional parts of the adjustment. When I fished the All-American, I wanted to switch out one of my rods and I had to get permission, and then have tournament officials watch me take one rod out and put one back in. They also watched what I did with the rod I took out.
It would be nice to not have something like that take up thinking and planning time, but again, it's a known long before you get there and actually do it.
I can't blame him for being upset, lord knows I would of been 'out of sorts'. Bummer situation no doubt.
As a few of you have already eluded to, not very professional. I hate to say it but just a dumb situation. He is a role model for many youngsters in this sport, probably had 20 cameras on him and lost his cool. As furious as anyone would of been, high profile pros have an implicit responsibility to stay the course or anyone for that matter, especially on a stage like the one he was on. Whether or not he should of been DQ'ed is another thread and fray altogether.
Another issue that came out of this was the culling of dead fish. Whether or not it was legal is one thing and many like minds who fish tourneys will be a bit more sympathetic to it but seems like this is an issue that may generate some subjective scrutiny as well.
Just to get it straight. He didn't have to fish every event last year from a Triton. He fished all tour events besides the classic in a Triton. I have a few tournaments on tape and he is in a green and white colored boat with RANGER on the side. So changing a guys equipment such as that in the biggest tournament to me is just flat out not right.
The culling dead fish is another interesting situation. I'm sure PETA will be all over that one.
Although, I would probably cull dead fish also if I had to (in the rare case that I even have a limit). It's easier when you don't have cameras all over you.
I know guy that would not even bring 4 or 5 dead fish to the weigh-in. One guy I know stoped and gave his 5 dead fish limit(the livewell stoped working) to some guy fishing off shore rather than bring them to the scale.
Unfortunatly, this Ike thing is distracting from the guys that are winning. I've seen less footage of them then of Ike.
Although I'm sure it seldom happens, the idea of throwing dead fish back into the lake is not a good angle for this sport. I hate to say it, but it demonstrates the lack ethics in the face of competiton and a 500,000 dollar check. In an ideal world, those dead fish should of been weighed in with the others and the ounces deducted accordingly. Most tournaments have protocol that deals with this situation and the fish are taken care of. Tough rocks I guess for whoever it happens to, but lets do the right thing.
Integrity, Integrity, Integrity.
If this had been anybody but Ike, they would not have been DQ'ed. Aaron Martens was wacking his pole onto the boat and swearing last year at the Classic....
If a camera follwed all pro atheletes around every moment, and was there when things went bad, about %90 of them would get penealized for lauguage and losing their cool. How many times have we seen guys throw things, swear, etc? Baseball players do it every time they step into the dugout, just a few feet from the fans.
This was a joke, and I'll say it again, anybody but Ike would have been just fine.
Savage that is very true. I also saw last year when Gerald Swindle went up to Zell Rowland and had a hissy fit because he was fishing the other end of the same 1/2 mile long bridge. That wasn't bad sportsman ship. You want kids seeing how they can't share water that far away. How he got all mad like a little kid and ran over there shouting at him. That was directly to another competitor as well. Atleast, Iaconelli directed to something else. No way he should of gotten DQed. Bass to me has taken a big down turn. You don't seem to hear about any of this stuff with FLW. Maybe that is why alot of pros are switching over to them instead.
He has definitely benefited from all the extra coverage because of his performances. I just think that also means there's a cost to all that extra coverage.
When you are in the spotlight, you can be guaranteed you will be treated differently because of that spotlight. I think Ike is intelligent enough to know that. He's been intelligent enough to know how to use his personality to get all the heavy coverage.
I don't hate him or like him. I love to see emotion. I don't personally like the swearing and he seems to carry it too far too often, but I fully understand why he does it - he's going by the 'there's no such thing as bad publicity' principle.
And I know there are people who like his performances much beyond the point I enjoy them. Maybe there are more of those people. I just prefer natural emotion to the overacting that he sometimes seems to sink into.
I'm definitely not arguing against anybody who says anyone else would have been fine - I totally agree that others may have gotten away with it. What my first two paragraphs imply is what my Mom told me when I was only ten - "Son, you might as well know now, life's not always fair."
couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
I guess there are always going to be people who like him, hate him, or don't really care.
It seems to me this creates bad publicity. If I was a sponsor of his, I don't know if I would be happy about how he presents himself.
I think emotion is good, but it's become just a show. Every time he's on camera he has to put on a bigger show than last time.
I've lost my temper before, but what he did showed no control, with cameras on him and everything! Maybe a DQ was not needed, but I don't feel sorry for him.
Why even have a rule about sportsmanship if you can't enforce it? Where's the line? Did he need to smash the windshields, throw his gear in the lake, smash the dead fish with his foot, moon the camera?
I totally understand where everyone is coming from.... The only point I am making is that we can't judge what they are doing or how we would act. Unless we are in the same spot that he is. You have to remember we fish tournaments normally for a few hundred or thousand dollars. He is fishing for the championship of the world and 500,000 and we all know proffesional anglers can most of the time use all the money that they can get. So until we are fishing on the same scale as he is it is very hard to judge.
The light in question was carrying an American flag. After ripping it out of the socket and beating on the livewell he stomped it into a pretzal and pitched it into the lake. I was pretty sure he was history at the time.
He did call in on culling the dead fish and they said ok.
There's too many guys that do endless good for the sport and the future of it to have to put up with a 6th graders private pity party because he didn't have the brains to turn on the aereator.
Later on I'll tell you how I really feel.
You know guys, most all professional sports in the last twenty years have taken a turn for the worst. The culprit behind this is money. It was just a matter of time before the fishing circuit got in to it. These professionals get paid the kind of money it would take a lifetime to earn, working a regular job. Heck, in one season, you couldn't make what they make working 30 years. There are sacrifices they make, but you make them everyday also going to your job. Trying to become a professional fisherman to me is a pretty rough job. Add big money to that and what do you have. Havoc, chaos, wrong doing etc.... To me, if I can't have fun, I don't do it. When money gets involved in having fun, you are asking for problems. I fish when I can and I don't care what it cost, cause I love to fish.........period.
I have to agree with dhuff.? None of us knows exactly how we'd react in this same situation, especially after practicing for this tourney for so long and the sponsor pressure to do well.? Do I like his antics sometimes?? Of course not.? However, would he have been DQ'd if didn't have a camera on his boat?? I doubt it.?
When a pro baseball player goes into the dugout and breaks his bat and uses 4 letter words, does he get thrown out of the game?? Usually not!? When a basketball player gets caught on camera on the bench cussing up a storm, does someone show the tape to a referee and have him tossed?? Never.? Even when the ref does catch them, they usually get a technical foul first, not just thrown out.? But because Ike is Ike, he gets treated differently.?
Unlike many who just think he's out for bad publicity, I can't help but think that if you're as passionate about your sport as he is, any one of us might act the same, especially with the high stakes.? That's no excuse for losing it.? But we're all different.? Some of us are more emotional and passionate than others.? Sure, he needs to learn a little control.? And no one wants to see the angry side of Ike with all the swearing and whatnot.? But was it fair that he was DQ'd?? Not in my opinion.? The sportsmanship rules should be enforced, but not just on Ike.? Besides I think the essence of the sportsmanship rules is to encourage integrity in the sport.? Integrity and emotional outbursts are NOT the same thing.? Integrity has to do with cheating.? Did Ike break any rules of his game that day and cheat?? Not according to B.A.S.S.? ?Did he break a state law?? That's questionable and he did call to ask what to do.? So should he have been DQ'd according to the tournament rules?? Nope.
I hate to see anyone cussing and getting that angry in front of a camera, but if you're not going to have the same standard for all the competitors, then it's not fair to pick on Ike.? So in that respect, I guess I do feel sorry for him.? That decision took from him the chance to try to do what KVD did by making the cut the next day.?
By the way, hat's off to KVD.? To come back like he did shows how much he believes in himself.? It was awesome to see.? Most other competitors would have mailed it in, but not KVD. If the Greatest Angler Debate was held in '06, I think the outcome would be vastly different! Way to go KVD!
Well... I really don't think that I could say anything in regards to the Ike delema, that any of you have already touched on...
What I do want to say is that given such a "spicy" topic, all of your posts have been... well...proffesional... courteous... and well behaved. You guys should be commended for yet again showing why this is one of the best sites out there.
Thanks again for leaving the "bull" in the pasture and coming out with intelligent debate.
Joshimoto son
The boat was not his, the light pole was not his.? He destroyed someone else's property on camera, acted like a horse's behind, and let profanities fly like the wind.? He got the publicity he was after, so he can deal with the consequences.? He was never in the race anyways, just like in 2004.? He knows the fisherman weighing in dinks won't end up on camera so he goes about another way to get himself and his sponsors on camera.? Notice the Mountain Dew held right in front of the camera at weigh-in.? The only reason he was shown in the weigh-in was to introduce the maniac's property destruction video.
BOOOOOOOOO!!? ?I am starting to really hate the guy.? That's a shame because he is a very good fisherman.? ?I guess that as long as people are still drawn to watching crap like the WWE, there will be a fan base for Ike.? Maybe the next tournament, Ike will bash KVD over the head with folding chair while he is bringing in the winning bag or jump into Edwin Evers boat and clothesline him right into the water.? That would get some coverage!!!! ;D ;D
There's people who would actually like that (Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... ;D)
I have to disagree with dhuff. Right is right and wrong is never right. Period. I'm not saying I wouldn't be angry if I were in that situation but I was raised to respect other people's property, even more than my own. What he did was wrong and he deserved? to be disqualified.
Ike is a great fisherman and I respect his passion for what he does, I just don't like his theatrics. I think he does it all for the camera. Does he scream like that when he is pre-fishing? I doubt it.In that way he reminds of the other pro sports players who showboat because they scored. Isn't that what they get paid to do? Act like you've been there before.
I understand its all about getting paid. He gets paid to get his sponsers air time. So do all the other guys and most of them do it in a more professional way.
In the end , he will probably attract some people to the sport that wouldn't otherwise watch. Since the sport can't grow without attracting fans that don't fish, I suppose you have to take the bad with the good.
Fellas, Fellas. We the American people will do anything to be entertained. There are A--holes in all walks of life. In professional sports these days, we pay to see them. That in so many words means you encourage this kind of behavior. Whether it's football baseball, hockey or whatever, rules and reg's govern these as do rules and reg's govern your reuglar job. Act a A--hole on your job and see what happens. If you don't agree with something in life, you usually don't use it, buy it or talk about it. If you don't like a professionals antics, don't encourage it These people can't command these salaries, unless we the American people help pay it by endorsing, watching, reading and talking about these antics and the products they endorse.......
Maybe Ike should get Dairy Queen as a sponsor so he can get a big 'ol "DQ" on his jersey and really make fun of B.A.S.S........
QuoteMaybe Ike should get Dairy Queen as a sponsor so he can get a big 'ol "DQ" on his jersey and really make fun of B.A.S.S........
Now there is a sponsor I can work with!!!
That is a great idea. By the look of my big gut, it's obvious that I frequent their establishments.
Blizzard with chocolate chip cookie doe. :P :P :P
Interesting 'article' 'to' Ike (Mike) from Mike Jones on Bassfan: http://www.bassfan.com/Opinion_article.asp?ID=57
Ahhh the saga of Ike. Well I'll tell you being there and talking to the other anglers about it everyone is wondering and suspecting it was all an act staged by ESPN, now I was in the boats as a spectator throughout this past weekend at the Classic (awesome gig) and we as spectators send fish catch information to ESPN via BassTrak on Nextel phones (pretty nice system) they know whos on fish and who isn't. Ike had a rough practice and was having a rough first day..many think this was a back up plan to keep Mike in the spotlight and keep the publicity flowing. GQ named him in the top most hated when he really hasn't done anything, so now he is trying too..did anybody notice the theatrical look on his face while he was breaking the lightpole...
i talked to him just before he weighed in Friday (he actually talked to my wife on my phone too..he was an awesome guy and really took time to see what i was doing and who i was...) there is more going on here than we all think...i hope they get a handle on it before too many adverse affects.
A conspiracy sponsored and directed by ESPN, and I suppose Oliver Stone was on the grassy knoll, capturing on film for his new movie.? Give me a break, you're on the scene reporting appears a bit flawed on this one.? His actions are consistant, from tourney to tourney and I believe he is simply an intense competitor with the language skills of a detroit rapper.? "Conspiracy" no.
All of the pro anglers are fierce competitors, not an excuse, and when you talk to Iaconelli, you see what he's like, not the crazy man you see on television but a tactical guru, with nothing but love for fishing.? I haven't been an Iaconelli fan but being closley involved with him and the Classic this year, my feelings have changed.? I respect your opinions Frogman but see it from my eyes before you reject my observation.? I understand the coverage on ESPN wasn't the greatest so I have probably seen things that many others haven't...but bottom line what did the whole scenario do?? Well all of these posts prove it...it created publicity for a usual fan favorite that was looking a subpar tournament straight in the face...mission accomplished!
UPDATE - Just for the record I am not trying to make anybody come over to my way of thinking, I appreciate all of your comments and as suspicious as things seem I hope they are not true. I should also say that just before Iaconelli weighed in he was surrounded by ESPN and BASS officials and the mood was light, they were laughing together and shaking hands...can't explain that one...
Not sure if any one has mention this yet but rumor has it he has lost Ranger/yamaha and triton's E.B. says he wont be in a triton
I had heard he was losing sponsorship of some sort, very interesting...you all notice Iaconelli had a Mountain Dew in his hands but Coca-Cola was a major sponsor of the Classic...on Sunday Aaron Martens had one of the new Vault drinks by Coke.? It truly is a money game.?
I was talking to Guido Hibdon Saturday night and he said Iaconelli did something during Satruday's tournament too, but it wasn't aired and I guess they hushed it up quite a bit.?
As long as we are throwing out rumors, I was talking with Chad Brauer and Mark Tucker on Friday night, according to Fish Fishburne, Citgo may be out as the Bassmaster sponsor.? They didn't even have a booth at the Classic Show, almost non-existant at the Classic.
For the record though, I don't typically like to post "rumors" but it all made for an interesting Classic and we probably won't know how everything is going to pan out until after it happens..typical...
Hey, I love the interchange and opinions -- talkin fishin on a cold February day beats the heck out of work!
I don't know about a conspiracy, but it sound interesting.
It would be even more interesting if Triton picked him up. Although, from his mumbling about the airator when his discovered his dead fish, it doesn't sound like he is fond of their livewell systems.
check out the ad on the back cover of thebass-times for the elite series - it says: Gentlemen, start your aerators! kind of ironic in light of the Iconelli situation. He'll get a ride for sure and always comes out on top - follow the money!
from the horses mouth:
http://www.mikeiaconelli.com/news.php?id=32
as well as from bassfan:
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Ike apologizes 2/28/2006
Ranger Boats announced today that it had dropped its sponsorship of Mike Iaconelli due his actions on day 1 of the Bassmaster Classic (see the statement from Ranger president Randy Hopper below). BASS later issued the following statement from Iaconelli:
"I want to publicly apologize to anyone I have offended by my recent actions during the 2006 Bassmaster Classic. As you know, I am a very passionate person. Sometimes my emotions get the best of me and that is exactly what happened. After finding several of my fish dying, I handled this crisis in the wrong way. I wish I could take back my actions, but I am human and I made a mistake.
"I want to assure everyone that my frustrations and anger were in no way purposely directed toward damaging safety equipment or degrading the American flag. I love this country and I love everything that the flag stands for. I am very patriotic and totally support our troops. No group more than professional anglers should feel as fortunate to live in a country that provides opportunity for so many to chase their dream.
"By quoting the famous American President John F. Kennedy, 'When written in Chinese, the word 'crisis' is composed of two characters ? one represents danger, and the other represents opportunity.' In the spirit of this statement, I ask for the forgiveness from my fans, peers, sponsors and all others who may have been offended by my actions.
"This has been an unfortunate incident and I regret what I did. When things like this happen, you have to learn from your mistakes, keep fishing and move forward. This is what I intend to do and hope you will move forward with me."
It is BS having fish from a Triton. However Ike is good fisherman but really plays it up to the camera. He is definetly selling himself.
I want to eliminate the usage of the word conspiracy within this string all together...rather I strongly believe it was a marketing ploy, you don't televise a sports event just to satisfy already finatics of that sport (although its partially for that) but rather to draw viewers that wouldn't normally tune in, how do you do that??? drama and interesting stories..enter IKE!
Every sport has a bad boy, no major sport is without one..Ike's our guy; like they say, love him or hate him...ESPN will continue to present him as such until the hype for him begins to fade, but that won't happen anytime soon.
This is an article from www.jayyelas.com ... please be aware this article does not support BASS, so if you would draw offense from that please do no read; this is just a view from a professional anglers eyes and experiences. It's a very interesting read and quite relavent to this string's topic...
http://www.fishingworld.com/Pro-JayYelas/Summaries-Previews/default.html
Well said Jay! I couldn't agree more.
If this were golf, Ike would be Happy Gilmore and Yelas would be Shooter McGavin.
I understand some of the things that Yelas is saying, but it really seems to me that he doesnt want the sport to grow. I have nothing against Jay Yelas, but in all the footage i have ever seen of him, he seems very bland and without a personality. He is getting left behind because he is not exciting to watch. Guys like Ike, Swindle, KVD are fun to watch and you can see there passion everytime they are on TV. Thats why these guys are the best known anglers. And they get other people interested in fishing, and watching the events on TV.
I was at my soon to be father in laws house last Sunday for his birthday. I turned on the classic at 5:30 and a few of the people there came over to watch it with me. None of them ever watch fishing, but 2 of the 3 knew who Ike was. And they all knew who KVD was. They couldnt name one other pro fisherman to save there lives. But they knew these two guys because they get a lot of mention. Of course companies are going to want to have there products endorsed by guys who are in the spotlight. Can you imagine if the classic coverage only showed guys like Yelas all day long? No one would watch. There would be no big named sponsors becuase there would be no audience.
I think Ike got the short end of the stick on this one. He definatly needs to tone it down a bit, but i think he is being targeted. We have seen this kind of behavior before. No one made a big deal when David Dudley threw his temper tantrum at the Jacobs Cup ( i think it was the Jacobs Cup ) when he kept losing fish. He went on a minute long cussing rampage, almost broke his rod over his leg, then threw it on the ground and kicked some other stuff.
And i seem to remember Ish getting bleeped a few times when he was yelling at spectators to get out of the lock. Now that was for sure directed at the spectators.
I think it was poor decision making on Rangers part to 'fire' Ike over what happened. IF he loses any other sponsors over this thing it will be ridiculous. I am not a fan of Berkley or Pure Fishing in general for personal reasons. But i commend them for standing by Ike. I would hate to think that i would lose my sponsors over being passionate about fishing. Maybe he took it a little far, but its the bassmaster classic. I might have done the same thing in an ABA tournament if i lost all my fish.
I do think we will see a more tamed Mike Iaconelli in the future. thats too bad, really. I know a lot of guys dislike him, but i think he is great. He is passionate. Whats wrong with that?
PoorBoy himself :-\'
Thats just the thing... he is "passionate"... It's all an act...
I believe that the passion he showed at the Classic he won was for real. ESPN saw this and ran with it. They liked it and i'm sure they're giving him some type of compensation to keep doing it. He's wigging out over a 1.5 lb fish... c'mon... get real...
Don't get me wrong, I want to see the sport grow just as much as all of you, but ESPN is turning our sport into the WWF. And I won't stand for it because I think it is making bass fishing lose its integrity...
Mike Iaconelli used to me one of my favorite bass fisherman... but his alterego "Ike" just chaps my rear... That's exactly what it is... ESPN doesn't want Micheal Iaconelli, they want "Ike"... I think he's a sell out...
Its all an act... its all a sham... Watch "Ike" run a Triton this first tournament here at Amistad...
Quote from: PoorBoy on March 01, 2006, 08:12:12 AM
? Can you imagine if the classic coverage only showed guys like Yelas all day long?? No one would watch.? ?
PoorBoy himself :-\'
I would!!!
I would too
For me its not about the characters catching fish, its all about the fish!!!! and that is what fishing should really be about.
Quote from: superjay5 on March 01, 2006, 09:38:39 AM
I would too
For me its not about the characters catching fish, its all about the fish!!!! and that is what fishing should really be about.
ESPN has made it about MONEY not fishing...? ?look how much actual coverage of fishing there was..
the thing that got me was him trashing that pole with the American Flag on it..
Imagine the troops defending our country watching that..
FLW is now running boats with National Guard wrap.. i bet if he did that there he would be gone for good..
i am sure someone will sign him up,? and he will be back making even more money..
look at? ? Kobe, O.J.,? Bode Miller...? the list goes on...
come on summer so we can all be outside...
Quote from: superjay5 on March 01, 2006, 09:38:39 AM
I would too
For me its not about the characters catching fish, its all about the fish!!!! and that is what fishing should really be about.
If it was only about that, you would see fishing as a sport die. You cant expect to entertain people who do not already fish by keeping the slow pace of years past.
Maybe ESPN is only in it for money, but the way fishing is marketed these days is what gets new people into it. I have old fishing videos that i lend out to people who want to get into fishing. Most of them hate the older ones that are slow paced and bland, but the newer ones with all the flashy colors, newer style music, hit tech equipment, and fast paced style are the ones get there attention.
My nephew is 9 now, and he cant sit through 5 minutes of my older Bill Dance or Babe Winkleman videos. But i throw in KVDs pitching to heavy Hitters and he will sit through the whole thing, askin questions about different stuff.
He will also watch Bass Saturdays with me. Every show. But i cant get him to sit down and watch the older style shows. Because to someone who is not into fishing like we all are, its boring. If the kid thought that is all there is to fishing, he would never want to go.
They have to do something to compete with the things younger generations are into and used to these days. And i think they are doing it.
PoorBoy himself :-\'