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Title: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: BASS FISHERMAN on May 23, 2007, 07:33:51 PM
i am wondurin ifin we going to be payin $4.00 per gallon this yeer fur gas for out boat an truck  ??? ??? ???
this goin to put the damper on mannie people out thar not onily fishermans but the everyday Joe aswell  :( :( :(
this gas thing gots me scared to say the leest  :-\' :-\' :-\'
what yous going to do  ??? ??? ???


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Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: 1javelin on May 23, 2007, 07:42:55 PM
Pay it and cry and complain.  What else can I do? :-\' :'( >:(
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: motocross269 on May 23, 2007, 08:07:30 PM
Have trolling motor only tournaments.  It could get tough in the detroit river though.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: BASS FISHERMAN on May 23, 2007, 08:15:20 PM
i has ben told that we can expect th gas to hit the $4.00 mark thiss yeer but who knows  ??? ??? ???
maybee its time to be sellin off the big boat an juss runs a small tin boat with 40hp tiller steerin an a big Minnie Kota Troll motur,24volts wiht lots powur  ;D ;D ;D
40 horse powur wood not use much gas as the big 225hp!!  ;) ;) ;)
i juss starts in fishing smallur tournies an leaves the big watur alone but its juss a thought rite now  :) :) :)
WHUT YOUS THINK BOUT THAT ???? good idee or no  :D :D :D

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Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: dashaver63 on May 23, 2007, 10:11:32 PM
http://pol.moveon.org/stoppricegouging/

Go to this website and sign the petition to stop price gouging. Lawmakers are trying to make it a federal crime for oil company's to charge these rediculious prices while they make billions every quarter.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: djkimmel on May 23, 2007, 10:45:19 PM
I read a little more on the federal law - it's not sounding too promising, but maybe it's a start? It's that, or maybe start having belly boat tournaments (no flippers, I think flippers have petroleum products in them).
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: yukonjack2 on May 23, 2007, 11:55:14 PM
I really don't want to hijack the thread, but $4.00 gas is not considered price gouging.  If you owned a small tackle shop, what do you think an acceptable margin(profit for those non business guys) is?  if you look at capital employed to make those billions every quarter, the return on investment is more than reasonable.  Compared to most of the world, energy costs here are the cheapest anywhere other than Brazil where they run on sugar cane ethanol. If you really want a female dog - female dog about the billions the banks make on 30% credit card interest - now thats true price gouging.

Jack
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: motocross269 on May 24, 2007, 02:46:08 AM
I don't see the correlation between gas prices and interest rates.  If I take out a loan I have an option on wether or not I want to sign at the set rate or walk away.  With gas I have no options I have to go to work.  I am cutting back in alot of ways, but I still have to buy gas.   
I guess we have beat this to death in other threads, lets hope that there is a leveling point on prices somewhere. 
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: REEL_MAN on May 24, 2007, 07:04:25 AM
If you want to fight the price gouge  >:( there is only one way that I can think of. Stop buying from Exon/Mobile. You say I don't have that company in my area. You do!!!  Exon/Mobile sell the majority of their gas on the spot market and the indepents buy on the spot market :o . So, buy your gas from those that have their own refineries, ie. BP, Marathon, Velaro, Shell, Sun. I'm sure there are others.
Other that slowing down >:( , reducing prefishing :'(, less tx's :'( this is the only way that I can think of that might help.
A few new members in congress and the senate might help too!!!

REEL MAN
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: Berkley on May 24, 2007, 08:39:40 AM
It would be nice to have a list of gas stations that sell Exxon/ Moblie gas. This year I am going to fish close to home. I am kicking myself for selling my tin boat with a 60h.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: 10-10 Bass Busters on May 24, 2007, 08:47:45 AM
We are not fishing as many tourney's and fishing the smaller ones closer to home.  If we were a little better and knew we could be in the money all the time then maybe it would be different.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: Duke on May 24, 2007, 09:35:07 AM
QuoteA few new members in congress and the senate might help too!!!

Isn't that why the Democrats made office this past election???? They were going to create positive change! Right? What do we get in return?? The highest gas prices since Hurricane Katrina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New record highs!! At least they hate our president, a lot of good thats done...

Sorry for the yelling, but my butthole is so large now  :o I'm begging for lubrication.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: BASS FISHERMAN on May 24, 2007, 12:26:39 PM
my boy juss come from Illanoy where gas was sellin fur less than $3.00 per gallon but he say once bak in our home states gas was up ovur $3.60 per gallon!!Less than $3.00 he say  ??? ??? ???
i dont no whut the answur is heer in Michigan butt it sucks  >:( >:( >:(
its still bettur than livin out thar in Calaformyaa tho  ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: JCOOPER on May 24, 2007, 01:22:11 PM
I think you mentioned Illinois.  (although I cant be sure thats what you were saying) Starting tuesday we joined the rest of the world in the 3 dollar range.  I filled my wifes truck up at 3.39 yesterday.  still cheaper than 3.60  but way too much.  I have done my research on gas prices and now feel even dumber after doing so!
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: fasttrack on May 24, 2007, 03:51:24 PM
What would really be scary is to see how the prices we pay for nearly everything will rise too. Since everything has to be produced and delivered, when their cost rise they will have to raise prices. What we pay at the pump is probably just the tip of the iceberg of the total impact. I'm sure there are already studies out there on the issue, but common sense is all that's needed. I drive a lot for my job in a fairly efficient car and I see how much fuel prices affect my small business. I can't fathom how the transportation industry could ever just absorb this without raising prices. We're not going to curl up into our shell and stop living, but we are certainly concious of the 'quick trip to the store', etc. I also plan to skip most pre-fishing this year. I fish such a small series that the $$ doesn't justify the extra expense. (Not that any of us will ever completely justify the cost of bass fishing anyways). If the oil big shots we're making 'reasonable' profit and simply passing along their costs it would be easier to swallow. But when they make Billions each quarter whilie the rest of us scrape by without much we can do about it, I would agree that something is wrong. We don't want Uncle Sam to jump into more areas than he already is, but the private sector hasn't solved it on their own yet. Who knows. That's my 2 cents.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: Revtro on May 24, 2007, 05:18:35 PM
Another "gas is out of control" thread.  As much as I don't want to comment, I would like to say one thing.  In the immediate short term, there isn't much we can do about it.  As for me, I am just going to do my best to keep a positive attitude and enjoy my summer even if it means a little less time on the water.  I know we all might need to vent a bit and that's understandable to a point.  But then what?  I thank God that I live in a country where I get to enjoy so many great things, have a roof over my head, vote, have various forms of recreation, practice whatever religion I want, have as many kids as I want, drive a car, choose my own career, etc...  There is so much to be thankful for that I am choosing not to dwell on the negative anymore and just start enjoying the life I've been given.  In the end, griping doesn't seem to make me feel any better anyway.  Just a thought.  Life is good whatever the gas prices are.  Try focusing on the good things.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: BASS FISHERMAN on May 24, 2007, 06:16:36 PM
i guess i talk to me partnur bout this high gas price an runnin the big boat out in the BIG WATER  ;D ;D ;D
i going to tell hims we well not be going fur them long boat rides thiss yeer like we do in the past  ;) ;) ;)
ifin we fish at Muskegone Lake we onliy go as far as Whites Lake!!Ifin we fish at Whites Lake we onily go to Muskegone Lakes  ;D ;D ;D
not goin to runs way up north tryin fur them big sacks  :D :D :D

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Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: dashaver63 on May 24, 2007, 08:17:41 PM
Many good points Revtro, and I do thank God every day I can get out of bed and go to work, that I have a home to go to and a family that I love and that loves me. However that being said, let me explain about my family. I am the sole supporter for a family of 6+1. My wife has MS and also is caring for her mother that lives with us. Between medications for the mother in law and the wife, add 3.50 a gallon for gas and then groceries for the week and there goes a paycheck. I haven't had the boat out of my driveway yet this year, and I don't mind. Like I said I just thank God every day that I have another day with my family. But 50.00 a week just for work and basic running? I don't care that I can't get the boat out, but when I have to decide between gas and what ever the family might need, thats wrong.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: yukonjack2 on May 24, 2007, 09:53:45 PM
if it helps - here is a website to find the lowest price gas near your area.   Just punch in your zip code - it appears to be pretty accurate, although I am not sure how up to date it is.

http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&src="Netx

Jack
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: Revtro on May 25, 2007, 04:40:56 PM
Man, I totally understand.  It's tough all over.  I feel your pain.  The only thing we can do is try to stay positive or else the frustration will eat us alive.  Anytime you want to fish with me on St. Clair, I'll pay the gas so you can get out at least once.  :)
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: motocross269 on May 25, 2007, 04:58:10 PM
I'll kick in for that fishing trip..My aunt has MS and I know how demanding that can be. 
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: dashaver63 on May 25, 2007, 09:25:44 PM
Hey guy's, I really appreciate the offers, you have no idea, but I live 45 minutes south of Toledo. I used to out of Alganac every year Labor Day but that has been a couple years. I found a sponser that paid all my entries into the BFL up there this year, and my parents said they would help with expenses and the wife for that one day so I'll be doing that. Again, thank-you! It really means alot that you would volunteer that.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: Revtro on May 25, 2007, 10:00:05 PM
Well if ya ever want to make a weekend of it, our club fishes St. Clair again soon and often.  You would be more than welcome to stay at our place or camp in our yard and fish with us on a Saturday.  Keep it in mind.  All you have to do is pick a weekend.  Consider it a mini vacation on the Eastside Bass Anglers!  The offer is good (and sincere) anytime.
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: dashaver63 on May 26, 2007, 09:13:51 PM
Thanks Tom, I'll let you know. Sounds like a good time!
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: Mojo on May 27, 2007, 02:18:53 AM
I looked up refined petroleum (finished gas) and according to the US Energy Information Administration, we went from 9300K barrels / week down to 8500K barrels/ per week. Refineries (2 of 56) shut down for maintenence in CA, 2 more in LA and I think 1 more somewhere else. They were down 3 consecutive weeks. Qatar's Oil minister issued a statement that Light Sweet Crude will fall skightly and OPEC output will remain steady (i.e - It isnt any other countries fault except your good old USA's infrastructure). Anyway it works out to a 10% decrease in US refinery output, and if you follow ol' supply and demand, you get the "rocket up feather down effect". Prices will jump way high and feather back down to $2.98 beginningAFTER the holiday. How convenient.  :'(

Oh and by the way you'll love this: About 20% of US refinery is isolated to Mexico because we refine 100% of the oil pulled out the gulf and their country and sell it back to them at a whopper profit. They were paying $4.50 / gal back when we paid $2.35.

Last question: Anyone have an idea why gas prices fell last September and last QTR 06 to $2.10 ? Did it have anything to do with the election ? Were the Republicans trying to jump start the economy temporarily ?
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: Duke on May 29, 2007, 10:15:31 AM
QuoteWere the Republicans trying to jump start the economy temporarily ?

Maybe, but so much for the Democrats helping. What's happened since they're time of reign? Nothing but even more bickering in the White House and record high gas prices. Thanks a lot Demos, you obviously listened to America...
Title: Re: $4.00 per gallon gas!!
Post by: OUTLAW on May 31, 2007, 08:25:57 PM
Don't be so hard on them they are doing what they can. Just be happy you lie in the USA were you should be able to speak your mind.

GOD BLESS THE USA AND THOSE WHO LIVE IN IT!!!!!