I was reading some articles on Paul Ryan and thought I would share a couple of them. Ryan is an avid hunter and fisherman. He supports increased access to public lands for hunting, fishing, and trapping. Congressman Ryan knows the importance of maintaining lead in our fishing tackle and bullets to ensure that we all can afford to participate in the wonderful outdoor sports God has graced us with! I really hope every Republican comes out to vote on Election Day in Michigan because if Romney/Ryan win this state, they will win the Presidency/Vice Presidency and protect our hunting and fishing rights. The next president will probably appoint 1-2 Supreme Court Justices and the last vote on the 2nd Amendment was only 5-4, this is a very important election for all of us!
http://www.odumagazine.com/fishingnews/2012/09/paul-ryan-shops-at-bass-pro-for-daughters-hunting-gear/ (http://www.odumagazine.com/fishingnews/2012/09/paul-ryan-shops-at-bass-pro-for-daughters-hunting-gear/)
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/features/226606 (http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/features/226606)
Seems like this might be a bad idea, posting regarding a particular candidate rather than posting about a specific law to discuss. Just a thought.
The law in question was the Second Amendment. I personally think the Constitution is pretty dang important. How about the Sportsmans Act? These are critical issues we, men and women who enjoy the outdoors, should consider when voting. Every time these guys stick up for us and the Second Amendment will only be altered by the Supreme Court
Good old Google helping with the whole research angle...
http://www.sportsmenvote.com/issues/public-lands-access/
From the site, which is nice enough to provide links to the source providing the information, regarding Mitt Romney:
In a recent interview in the Reno Gazette-Journal, Mitt Romney stated that he does not know why the United States owns so much land, and that he has to study the purpose of it. While governor of Massachusetts, Romney cut funding for state parks by $7 million and the system ranked 48 out of 50 in per-capita park funding.
Same site, same page, regarding President Obama:
While as president, Barack Obama has worked to add public wilderness, signing the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009, which created two million acres of public land. However, there have been attempts by his administration to limit shooters from using public lands, which they later decided not to do.
Additionally, the Conservation Reserve Program (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_Reserve_Program)is currently supported by President Obama, but Mitt Romney hasn't stated an official position regarding it. When you vote for Ryan, you get his other half too as a package deal.
Is this the Sportsmans Act you're referencing
http://www.sportsmenvote.com/sportsmens-heritage-act-receives-overwhelming-support-passes-house/
The House approved the bill with a vote of 274 to 146, which seems to point to bipartisan support.
We will just have to wait and see. If the Second Amendment is altered, it's only a guess what happens from that point. Currently, 5-4. Can we risk it? I don't want to take that chance... We also need to ensure Stabenow and Levin are behind a long term solution for us as well because the Senate can be a tough place to negotiate. One Senator from Montana lumped the Sportsman's Act bill in with about 15-20 others, most have nothing to do with hunting/fishing, to try and get Republicans to vote for the total package. They really need to separate this bill back out because it could stand alone and probably pass 60-40, 70-30.
My opinion, Obama could care less about hunting fishing and all outdoor sports. This time they decided not to limit shooters. If he wins the election, LOOK OUT!
While I'd like to continue eating tasty wild animals, there are just too many other issues that have a higher priority for me to even consider voting Republican.
Don't worry jgip807, Romney and Ryan will win!!!!!
Paul Ryan believes that fish farms are impregnating fish against their will - and thats not what God wants, and in their believe that Government should control everyones reproductive rights, - they will shut down all fish farms immediately !!
But Mitt Ronmey believes the Obama administration was wrong to loan money to the car companies - AND believed they should "Let Detroit go bankrupt." He of course - said this to a southern non union state that has just won its 3rd automotive plant in its state - a republican state.........
lol..... Lets be real... Obamas admin has done NOTHING to hurt our outdoors, but they have sent $650 million to clean up landfills that 'could' affect wildlife. Thats sounds like a straight forward kind of guy.
And besides Mitt being born on Michigan soil, this is just another republican puppet who, once in office, would only continue to weaken Michigan while strengthening his loyal Republican southern states. THINK about it.
Romney wanted GM to through bankruptcy just like every other company would have to. What Obama did was pay off unions for political reasons and let the bondholders die.
GM would have survived a bankruptcy and have been better off because it would have forced them to really address issues on the business model vs being propped with gov't $,
I don't know about everyone else, but, I'm in a lot better shape today than I was 4 years ago. I work for Ford and we are as strong as ever!!! Couldn't say that 4 years ago.
Also, I put my house up for sale to upgrade to a nicer home and it only took a week to sell. The realtor said sales are booming and they are as busy as ever and prices are continuing to climb. The average listing in the Canton, MI area, which is a standard good mix of blue and white collar homes, is 1 to 2 weeks on the market. That was unheard of the last change of the guard. Things are steadily going in the right direction from my neighborhood. ;D
Most historians agree the crash of 08 fell the economy, housing, markets and credit freezes faster and harder than the crash of 29. The 2 years following were textbook government meltdown.
AND it's agreed it was due to the Republican 2 wars, severe tax reductions, and a lack of credit restrictions.
No government, on earth, recovers from that in 2 years. So stop the silliness. We were lucky. Obama propped the economy, provided credit when all banks wouldn't, spent to keep people at work, and now it seems 2011 was the bottom, and now we are coming out.
It makes no sense to Reward the people that caused this. But it does makes sense to give the guys who inheritted worse economy since 1932, a chance to untie his hands, and fight with both hands.
I'm weighing in with Mojo. Here's another reason why.
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2012/10/29/121029ta_talk_surowiecki
and more people have time to fish now because they are unemployed. and when we fish thursday mornings there are a lot of other boats out there partying and drinking by noon because they are unemployed too. I even have more time to fish because there is less to do at work, though it's harder to afford now because I had 5 pay cuts in 2011 and 2012.
I am doing better as well than 4 years ago but u cant look at individual cases but the country as a whole. I do not like the direction this country is headed and am embarrassed by the actions this administration has shown.
When the real truth comes out on the Bengahzi attacks which probably wont be after the election, you will find either total ineptness or the biggest cover-up in US politics which dwarfs Watergate.
I don't think we will recognize our country if we have another 4 years of this president and the decisions he will make without having to answer to being reelected.
God Bless the USA as this is one of the most important times in our history.
My ex is actually doing a lot better now. She is fully retired and her boyfriend works very little and is close to retirement. They get a decent pay check from the govt to not work. They also have great insurance coverage. They are covered for everything and they can even call for a ride to get there and back. This is all completely free thanks to the govt. So at 29 years old she is fully retired and happy. She is doing better for sure. I should add, she even just welcomed her new daughter into the world for free. What a great thing the govt does for those of us willing to stop working and just relax, maybe even have some more kids.
Just imagine if the government let the auto industry and the millions that supply them go bankrupt, instead of paying the taxes for the good of all, they woud be in the food stamp line with them.
Overall, I've like that we generally avoid this type of topic on here and have received complaints in the past when they have come up in the grain like 'what does this have to do with Great Lakes bass,' etc.
I do recognize that our government and their actions are and should be very important to all of us for the outdoors we love, and for all the other ways they impact our life, but these topics tend to easily get out of hand, going personal and ugly on many forums and other public discussion places.
I'll leave it open and up as long as you all continue to keep it NOT personal and respect each others' opinions. I say it but probably not enough - you all do a really good job of this the vast majority of the time making it easy on me and the Global Moderators. Thank you.
Though, to some, these topics seem like they don't fit within Great Lakes bass, in reality, I think most of us realize that our government, DNRs and other elected or public bodies do affect our sport and the natural resources our pastime rely on greatly. I'd like it if we could discuss pretty much any related topic in an adult, mature and productive manner all the time. We, here especially, have more in common than different. We would all be better off if we can do that and show everyone else how to do it (including our elected officials).
One key thing I think I need to point out - if any of you personally are not willing to review any information posted by another member, please remember that you cannot expect the other member to take the time to read the information you post or link to. Common courtesy often makes for productive discussion.
And now, back to the show ....... ::)
Or back to fishing...! I know we can all agree about that! (I do hope everyone does take advantage of the important right to vote though... and fish. Fish too!)
Worth a read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/opinion/krugman-medicaid-on-the-ballot.html?_r=0
Interesting points of view. A large percentage of 1/3 of my adult life was spent working in the Medicaid health industry.
I didn't say any of that. Don't help me get in trouble with people. I do a good job all by myself!!!
Seems like I used to fish about 1/3 of my life but lately it has been, sadly, a lot less. I was warned. Wish I slept 1/3 too!
I was in healthcare a pretty good chunk of my life. I worked at one company for 17 years and another for 9 years. It really, really cut into my fishing time. Sleeping time too!
Mojo prefers obama bass tournament math. mojo caught 5bass and frank caught one bass, therefore mojo must give frank 2 bass so that everyone is equal.
I know you appreciate that mojo
Oh boy... now we are doing math on here!
There is a story behind that statement. I think you got to hear part of it on bushman. Lol
Yes. I did hear some stories there though the wind and the rain blew and chilled a few of them out of me. I did enjoy that day quite a bit despite running out of juice from the workout carrying stuff to and from the lake! It was probably good exercise for me but I needed another peanut butter sandwich to finish well!
People may not have noticed, but I have a weird sense of humor. I sometimes just start chuckling for no apparent reason. It actually freaks some people out...!?! Which makes me chuckle a little more... ;D
Quote from: jgip087 on October 21, 2012, 09:03:15 PM
I was reading some articles on Paul Ryan and thought I would share a couple of them. Ryan is an avid hunter and fisherman. He supports increased access to public lands for hunting, fishing, and trapping. Congressman Ryan knows the importance of maintaining lead in our fishing tackle and bullets to ensure that we all can afford to participate in the wonderful outdoor sports God has graced us with! I really hope every Republican comes out to vote on Election Day in Michigan because if Romney/Ryan win this state, they will win the Presidency/Vice Presidency and protect our hunting and fishing rights. The next president will probably appoint 1-2 Supreme Court Justices and the last vote on the 2nd Amendment was only 5-4, this is a very important election for all of us!
http://www.odumagazine.com/fishingnews/2012/09/paul-ryan-shops-at-bass-pro-for-daughters-hunting-gear/ (http://www.odumagazine.com/fishingnews/2012/09/paul-ryan-shops-at-bass-pro-for-daughters-hunting-gear/)
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/features/226606 (http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/features/226606)
Well said!! I was at the Paul Ryan rally at Oakland U. and Paul was looking forward to looking forward to getting into his tree stand once the election is over. I fear what the current administration might do to the second amendment, if re-elected into a lame duck session. They will be able to let their true colors show, uninhibited and I don't believe that those colors are Red, White and Blue.
The most intelligent and American thing that I heard uttered during all three debates was that Romney repeatedly argued that the Fed. government needs to retract and leave more decisions up to the States. That my friends is what our beloved constitution promotes.
At the state level, you and I have a much greater impact! The feds should stick to National Security and interstate commerce, as the constitution gives it power to regulate, and leave everything else to the States!
I am sick of an arrogant president who thinks he knows better than our brilliant founding fathers!
God bless America and good night!
I would think in any lame duck session it is more likely nothing important will be accomplished or compromise that is extra distasteful to one 'side' or the other is more likely.
One of my early bosses was a politician. He got out some time ago because he said it was getting ugly. I really liked him.
I've always thought we could make government more decent and honorable again if we just decide we want to. Enough of us anyway.
I don't know if society mirrors them? Or they mirror society? Shoot! We all get along on here more often than we don't, don't we?
An interesting article for those who want an independent look at how the two candidates stand on the economy.
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21565623-america-could-do-better-barack-obama-sadly-mitt-romney-does-not-fit-bill-which-one
Bummer... phone was ringing off the hook today! 3 calls in 20 seconds at one point! Now, I'm getting similar stuff in ads on here!!! Yikes. I'll be glad when Tuesday is over so we know what happened and what comes next.
I hope everyone exercises their right to vote Tuesday. It's one of the most important things we have going for us in the great United States of America! I do not get people who don't make the most of it by voting.
I have so much to say, but.... All I'm going to say is, mojo, you're still a great friend of mine
Much love to all out there. Especially those with opposing views. That fact that we can discuss this openly is the foundation of our great country. Ill shake hands with you after any discussion. Cause you guys are like family.
Oh PS: 16 Electoral votes from MI to Obama - Thanks for playing
BTW, for Michigan voters, if you want to review your ballot, check out the proposals, find your voting place - check out www.michigan.gov/vote which takes you to the Michigan Secretary of State Voter Information app.
Today is the day and we can move on. Make sure your kids, grandkids know what is happening today. No matter which guy wins there future will be impacted for quite a while.
I VOTED!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA..... LAND THAT I LOVE
Me too! It took 2 1/2 hours because we had a big turnout in my precinct with a slow computer I guess because they had more than 5 times as many voting booths compared to the usual number. 98% of the voters waited pretty patiently. A couple first time voters did come in, look at the line and leave - that was sad to see - but most people just walked to the end (around several hallway corners) and waited.
I do realize it's post-election now and the man who saved the auto industry was victorious, but the fact is that when the auto bailouts happened it created new jobs for people who didn't have jobs. As a matter of fact, one person posting in this thread got a job I know for sure. I can understand why he has that viewpoint and I 100% support that viewpoint. I am an Obama supporter. My union comes strong for candidates that support working families. But one of the most interesting anomalies out there was that people could tell you why they would not vote for Obama, but of those same people, not one of them could tell you why they voted for Romney. My viewpoint simply is if you're not making over a million a year, why would you vote for Romney??? ??? All I know is that I still have a job to support my family and its because of Barack Obama. He now has a good chance to make some good history in his 2nd term. Stay tuned. I think you all will prosper in the next 4 to 8 years. It's going to be good. But it's also going to take non-partisan cooperation to make it happen. The new Republican controlled Congress is where it will start. It's on them first and foremost.
Hail To The Chief!!
BD. ;D
Just hope China does not run out of money to loan us. Our grandkids will be paying for years.
He did win now we will see what our future brings us.
And in 6 months we can start fishing again. :'( :'(
Quote from: dartag on November 10, 2012, 04:01:08 PM
And in 6 months we can start fishing again. :'( :'(
Amen to That!!!
Maybe if we look into the global warming thing, we can speed it up and only miss out on 2 months of fishing?!? ;D
I am glad that this post will soon be completely forgotten, and I won't have to think poorly of men that I otherwise like and appreciate! LOL