guess it was fun while it lasted. Funny it was never even fished in this series. Wonder if FLW will do anything since they made a big deal about it in there events.
www.greatlakesbass.com/tournaments/index.php/2012/01/20/bass-bans-alabama-rig-and-multi-lures
It will be interesting to see if local tournaments allow this in the upcoming season. Seems like it would be fun to fish.
I don't fish tx's but.....
I'd be real ticked off if I had just laid out the money for a couple of these rigs at the show this past weekend only to find out I couldn't use em in the local tournaments.
By the way if you haven't seen the rig that Nemesis has up for sale you're missing it. It was the best looking rig I saw this past weekend.
Jim Sprague from NBAA said as long as the state doesn't ban the use of it that it will be ok to use but I heard that in Ohio or maybe Indiana you can only use three of the wires.
Only 3 wires allowed in Missouri too. FLW fishes Table Rock Lake... so they won't have to make a ruling there I guess.
Quote from: customfishn on January 17, 2012, 08:09:35 PM
Jim Sprague from NBAA said as long as the state doesn't ban the use of it that it will be ok to use but I heard that in Ohio or maybe Indiana you can only use three of the wires.
No were does it say 3 wires in the Reg's
It states 3 hooks
Right, 3 hooks. We plan on using two "decoy" lures on our rigs when we fish Table Rock in April.
seems like a stupid and unnecessary rule. It doesn't create an uneven playing field, its not illegal and it doesn't hurt the resource. There really is little justification whatsoever for banning it.
I bet we see BASS fish 3 or 4 spawning tournaments this year though. They don't have a problem with big spawners being sloshed around livewells for 5 days straight, but god forbid you use 5 single hook swimbaits at on time..... maybe they will ban tandem spinnerbaits too.
Well, it's their "club." It won't affect any of us... unless you say we can't throw it on Monday nights! LOL!!
But who am I kidding... with my shoulder and wrist issues I can probably throw the dang thing for about 5 minutes tops... and not 5 in a row!
I'm more than a little surprised. But not much more. I can't see FLW banning it at this time, especially now. I think it is a backwards step though I understand why some of the pros wanted the change and B.A.S.S. would support it.
Seems a little like a 'we're premier' statement too which I don't think is productive. I look at it as not really accomplishing that. To me, it's a little more like Minnesota trying to outlaw fishfinders and that was a long time ago. It feels like a time warp move not a modern move. Not that big of a deal to me personally though since I don't expect to be in either the Elite Series or Classic but I wouldn't have supported the change. They've been allowing double rigs for years. Now even those are outlawed. I would have just set a limit, but not 1.
I guess as long as the majority of their anglers want the change and will still fish with that rule, that matters most to B.A.S.S. not what I think. I think the other pros would be better off is they outlawed KVD than any certain rig. He'll still beat them a lot with or without it! ;D
BTW, I've seen one high MDNR Fisheries employee stating that the 5 hook Alabama type rig is legal in Michigan - up to 6 hooks actually, but just to be sure, I've asked Lansing Law Enforcement to please confirm in writing before I post it on here and say go do it. I always try to have the right person in writing to help with any confusion at the local level later (just in case).
I would think, since tournaments haven't outlawed side imaging and that is out of the reach for many anglers on a budget, I don't see why they would outlaw umbrella rigs that are much more affordable to more anglers. It's just a tool. You still have to use it right in the right places.
I myself see it that BASS banned the rig for the reason that allot of the top guys (and there the assets) whated it banned.
It's mob rule
And I do see it as a step backwards for the Elite series
Royce nailed it. Mob rule. BASS is banning a legal fishing technique. Nuff said.
Again, it will affect none of us, so who really cares.
Maybe after a few seasons, they'll reconsider or amend it.
Quote from: Waterfoul on January 17, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
Again, it will affect none of us, so who really cares.
We can still care. We have to have something to talk about right now.
Quote from: Waterfoul on January 17, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
Again, it will affect none of us, so who really cares.
Oh, You'll care Mike
Next they will be banning the DS. LOL
Hope KLBA does not ban it
I'm glad...I'm NOT a fan of the Alabama rig at all. You won't see one in my tackle box or me fishing one for that matter either.
It does give an unfair advantage IMO in bass tournaments.
Quote from: matt on January 18, 2012, 08:27:16 AM
It does give an unfair advantage IMO in bass tournaments.
please elaborate.....
i fail to see how it's at all possible an alabama rig is an advantage when everyone has the choice to use it or not.
I know we can express our opinions all we want and someone's will be different but I agree with this rule and believe it should be in place in all tournaments. I have read a lot of reports of catching 4-5 bass on a single cast using the new rig. I believe that tournament fishing should involve more skill, similarly to why live bait is illegal. I believe this is the same belief that has established one rod in use at a time and we have been living with that rule for a while.
Quote from: thedude on January 18, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: matt on January 18, 2012, 08:27:16 AM
It does give an unfair advantage IMO in bass tournaments.
please elaborate.....
i fail to see how it's at all possible an alabama rig is an advantage when everyone has the choice to use it or not.
Yeah, even though I don't mind the ruling at BASS, I'd like a little clarification as to why you think it's unfair if everyone can CHOOSE whether or not to throw it.
I guess with this ruling, the part that kind of got under my skin was when they said, "our events represent the highest level of professionalism in our sport." It kind of made me feel as if they were looking down their noses at anyone else who may use the rig. Left a bad taste.
Banning a lure from tourneys because it "catches too many fish"?! What's next, banning passing in football?
I don't agree with this. I hope the local event don't follow suit. I think the A-Rig is just what we needed to keep things exciting.
I say ban them. If you allow A-rigs then you might as well allow trolling and rod holders. That will catch me catch more fish too...
Hell lets go for live bait while were at it ;D
Quote from: thedude on January 18, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: matt on January 18, 2012, 08:27:16 AM
It does give an unfair advantage IMO in bass tournaments.
please elaborate.....
i fail to see how it's at all possible an alabama rig is an advantage when everyone has the choice to use it or not.
It mimics a school. Single baitfish or a school of baitfish? Which one you think is gonna appeal to the Bass?
If I had to watch all the pros on TV throwing this Alabama rig,I for one won't even watch it. It would take the entertainment out of it BIG TIMES! I enjoy watching them work a single lure the way they do.
I have to agree with mr t.bone...
I don't think any lure should be banned in any tournament as long as its legal to use in that state. It is still just a fishing lure and simply used to trick a fish. Guys are still casting the a-rig and working very hard to do so. Nobody is at a disadvantage since everyone has the option to use the a-rig or be stubborn and not throw it when they should be. Sure at first I think it will dominate in certain situations just about anywhere in the country but i don't think it will stay that way. Just as any other lure the fish will eventually get conditioned to it and it will not be as effective. Sure the next year or so in some events most of the professional field will be throwing the a-rig and it will appear to have taken some of the skill out of it. But i only think this will happen certain times of the year in certain situations and these guys still have to find the bass which is the hardest part and requires more skill than any other aspect of this game we play. In reality side imaging takes more skill out of tournament fishing than anything else since I been doing this and to ban the a-rig imo is ridiculous. Or how about BASS stepping up enforcement on the no info rule? Is it fair that some guys have more money and sponsors and more connections to get info from locals and guides? Maybe BASS should put more energy into preventing what we all know plays a huge role in the results of alot professionals success or lack of.
No info rules and figuring out how to enforce them would make things much more fair for one angler against one angler. I just don't know how you keep it from happening without being a mind-reader? We all know there will always be people pushing the limits or 'reconfiguring' the limits in their own mind to their own needs.
That part of tournament fishing has always bothered me - anglers pretending they don't understand these types of rules or saying things like - 'if you tell me without me asking, it's okay.' It's not okay.
As far as a lure or rig - if it's legal in the state, why outlaw it. Everyone can choose to use it or not. Everyone at that level can afford it or get it for free. It won't work all the time everywhere. It won't stay as hot forever. Use any lure in the wrong places at the wrong times and your competitors actually have an advantage over you.
Live bait was outlawed primarily because bass tend to swallow it much faster and then have a lower mortality rate which is obviously counter-productive to a catch and release philosophy. This was done before new ways of using live bait were developed that improve the ability to use it and still practice catch and release if you want to. Some studies have shown a statistically indifferent mortality rate now for live bait verses artificial lures for bass. Not that I want to see live bait for bass. They can be caught well enough with artificials and it's now a longstanding tradition, a good PR move too.
I think this ruling is not a huge deal as long as B.A.S.S. keeps making it clear they are only doing it for their 'elite' events and not for any of the 'lower' events as they are now. If it is purely a competitive move that their 'elite' anglers want than I guess do it. Make your customers happy. If other people start to follow suit because B.A.S.S. did it, then that is just asking for a whole new round of debate on what is 'fair' and what isn't that won't accomplish much other than wind things up on the Internet. That could be good and bad for people like me who run discussion sites.
I'm just glad Minnesota hasn't outlawed it yet. Just kidding, but it really isn't that long ago that every time some new technology came out - "fishfinders will decimate the fish!!" - someone in Minnesota would introduce a law to outlaw it before it was too late! The same thing happened with underwater video cameras there when they first became widely popular and that wasn't really very long ago.
Minnesota wasn't the only state either that discussed this kind of thing. They just seemed to take it the farthest.
Really, how many of us know someone who has all the best and latest gear and tackle, and still hardly weighs in any fish? There is no magic bullet. Just good anglers and not as good anglers.
I've mentioned before, but a while back, I played with all kinds of double rigs for quite a while. I found it was very effective sometimes. Ineffective sometimes. And couldn't tell if it mattered a lot of the time. Just like any other lure or technique. I also found that sometimes I would hook two big bass at once and a certain percentage of those times I had too high a rate of break offs. So I never used them a ton in tournaments. Just something I would try once in a while to get anything going.
Use these wire rigs a lot and you'll break some off too when you're catching them good. Like any other rig, there's pluses and minuses. Not magic. I've caught doubles on topwaters and crankbaits a number of times. If we outlaw a 5 bait rig, why not rule that hard baits can only have one hook on them? Or no more than 2 hooks?
I've actually had 3 fish on at once a few times. Never landed all 3 yet. Why not just say you can use a 2-hook or 3-hook umbrella rig, but not a 5? What about trailer hooks with feathers or plastics on them? What about spinnerbaits with a hook on the blade arm?
Think about that. A spinnerbait has two arms and really 2 lures - a flashing blade and a flashing, undulating skirt, and I've had plenty of times where fish hit the blade first, or a trailing fish hit the blade after I hooked a fish on the skirt part. Should we outlaw spinnerbaits because they have 2 arms? I've seen spinnerbaits that can hook fish on the blade arm.
If you are saying one angler, one lure, then I really think you limit the lure to 1 hook also. Even one wire, so no spinnerbaits.
I think the motives behind 'outlawing' the umbrella rig are not really the ones stated. It should cause all kinds of new ruckus now that some B.A.S.S. events can't use it but FLW will allow it. All kinds... we'll probably see some steam coming off some of the more feisty websites this winter now that I think about it.
I'm going to try it this year. I don't really fish tournaments anymore. I get bored easy. And I like to try new things. Should be fun at times. And probably won't work worth a darn at other times. Not that my poor old boat needs anymore weight in it. Like many of you, I could already stock a small tackle shop. ...maybe a medium tackle shop ;D
Maybe this will actually help our Northern cabin fever??
Quote from: t-bone on January 18, 2012, 11:55:07 AM
I say ban them. If you allow A-rigs then you might as well allow trolling and rod holders. That will catch me catch more fish too...
Hell lets go for live bait while were at it ;D
As a guy that loves to troll for Walleye
I enjoyed the laugh. trust me there's some skill needed to be good at trolling
Next they're going to outlaw buying fish from spectators, since they don't have co-anglers ;)
Just joking. But really, does it matter? Some states have different laws than other states, so as not to make any waves in any situations I think they just went ahead and said no to the whole scenario. Does that make it right? Absolutely not. Does that make it easier to enforce? Absolutely. What if you're fishing the border of two states and the rules differ in each state? It's your spot to know the rules, but it's BASS' image if you're in the wrong.
I say let men do men things and heave big heavy baits out there if they want. Maybe they should ban treble hooks instead since they seem to do a lot more damage to fish than single hooks ever could!
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HydroWave is suppose to imitate a school of shad by sound....Alabama rig by sight....One company is owned by 2 elite series pros...one of which has dominated the sport...but that's OK?....I guarantee you if Strike King had brought it to market first...that panel of pros would never have voted banned it.
lol. its' not some magical bait that fish just can't help but eat. Schooling fish keying on schooling bait seems to be the prime opportunity for it. Sounds like the best lure to target a specific pattern. Kinda like throwing a jerkbait to suspending fish or using 1.5oz of tungsten to punch grass mats.
You still have to find the fish, identify the pattern and get them to eat it. So what if you catch 5 let alone 2 at a time?
Being "too effective" means we should probably ban tubes on lake st. clair and lake erie. Should also just shut down production of senkos all together... those might as well be live bait.
Off on a tangent... i'm totally putting 5 tubes on an a-rig with different length leaders and dragging them at the DK open!!!! (assuming a-rigs aren't banned there too)
Well, thanks to the generosity of Ed Dyer, I now own TWO Alabama rigs. I should house sit for him more often!! LOL!!!
Still not sure if I can even throw one of the dang things though. I did however buy a spool of 65 lb braid recently in anticipation of at least trying to throw it.
Quote from: thedude on January 18, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
Off on a tangent... i'm totally putting 5 tubes on an a-rig with different length leaders and dragging them at the DK open!!!! (assuming a-rigs aren't banned there too)
LOL.... I said the same thing,wonder what would happen if you put 5 tubes on there in a joking matter. Let me know how that goes(how fast you will snag it too).....That's just me being curious!
I still don't want one....It's just me I guess.
I'm just gonna agree to disagree with some of the comments here....again it's just me...I don't like the A-rig.
Quote from: matt on January 18, 2012, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: thedude on January 18, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: matt on January 18, 2012, 08:27:16 AM
It does give an unfair advantage IMO in bass tournaments.
please elaborate.....
i fail to see how it's at all possible an alabama rig is an advantage when everyone has the choice to use it or not.
It mimics a school. Single baitfish or a school of baitfish? Which one you think is gonna appeal to the Bass?
If I had to watch all the pros on TV throwing this Alabama rig,I for one won't even watch it. It would take the entertainment out of it BIG TIMES! I enjoy watching them work a single lure the way
The hydrowave does that as well. Should that be banned. If every competitor is using that to simulate a feeding school through audio cues how is that not very simular to the a-rig?
Quote from: rangerfan on January 18, 2012, 07:59:36 PM
HydroWave is suppose to imitate a school of shad by sound....Alabama rig by sight....One company is owned by 2 elite series pros...one of which has dominated the sport...but that's OK?....I guarantee you if Strike King had brought it to market first...that panel of pros would never have voted banned it.
I think we have a winner here! I've also wondered why live bait was banned, but I never knew the history. Thanks for sharing that Dan and the statistics that live release rates are good now with modern tackle. I don't think that tackle companies would allow live bait to be reinstated because they would lose too much money. The A-Rig is just a method of fishing, as long as the angler is casting it and it's legal on the local water, that I don't think should be banned. I think that under certain situations it may be a great idea, but in late December I tested the Nemesis one by casting it from shore at Kent a few times. I was very disappointed because I didn't catch 5 fish each cast! Never mind the water was upper 30's and I was nowhere near any fish.
I heard that in Michigan you can have one rod with an A-rig setup but if you have another rod on the deck with it, that would be illegal. Geez, that will be easy to enforce and that sounds to me like they are treating it like the number of baits/rods you can have in a trolling setup.
I'm not for it in TXs, that doesn't mean I didn't buy a few to toss around for fun fishing.
Five or potential 10 treble hooks at the end of a line are going to rip up a fighting fish.
Quote from: rangerfan on January 18, 2012, 07:59:36 PM
HydroWave is suppose to imitate a school of shad by sound....Alabama rig by sight....One company is owned by 2 elite series pros...one of which has dominated the sport...but that's OK?....I guarantee you if Strike King had brought it to market first...that panel of pros would never have voted banned it.
It is a shame that there are so many possible alternate reasons why this ruling was done. If it had snuck up on us, I don't think this would happen, but with it winning 3 fairly high profile events in short order it EXPLODED on us causing a different type of reaction.
I do feel sorry for the lure companies if there ends up being a backlash effect that grows because the industry is already struggling badly enough.
Quote from: thedude on January 18, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
lol. its' not some magical bait that fish just can't help but eat. Schooling fish keying on schooling bait seems to be the prime opportunity for it. Sounds like the best lure to target a specific pattern. Kinda like throwing a jerkbait to suspending fish or using 1.5oz of tungsten to punch grass mats.
You still have to find the fish, identify the pattern and get them to eat it. So what if you catch 5 let alone 2 at a time?
Being "too effective" means we should probably ban tubes on lake st. clair and lake erie. Should also just shut down production of senkos all together... those might as well be live bait.
Off on a tangent... i'm totally putting 5 tubes on an a-rig with different length leaders and dragging them at the DK open!!!! (assuming a-rigs aren't banned there too)
I will consult the MadWags Memorial angler's panel to get an opinion and then make a ruling.
Okay, they said go ahead and use it as long as I get a clear answer from MDNR Law division soon (I hope). I have seen an email where a fairly high up Fisheries person said Law ruled it is legal with 5 hooks or less. I don't see how a rod on the deck is illegal if the lure is not in the water. That is a strange.
Quote from: Waterfoul on January 18, 2012, 11:54:42 PM
Well, thanks to the generosity of Ed Dyer, I now own TWO Alabama rigs. I should house sit for him more often!! LOL!!!
Still not sure if I can even throw one of the dang things though. I did however buy a spool of 65 lb braid recently in anticipation of at least trying to throw it.
Are you supposed to take things away from the house you house sit at?
Quote from: t-bone on January 19, 2012, 09:49:20 AM
I heard that in Michigan you can have one rod with an A-rig setup but if you have another rod on the deck with it, that would be illegal. Geez, that will be easy to enforce and that sounds to me like they are treating it like the number of baits/rods you can have in a trolling setup.
I'm not for it in TXs, that doesn't mean I didn't buy a few to toss around for fun fishing.
Five or potential 10 treble hooks at the end of a line are going to rip up a fighting fish.
Shoot! I usually have 8 or 10 rods laying on the deck already. I get bored easy!
Anyone consider the possibility that this is a ploy by the manufacturer?
I mean if I owned the rights I'd try to get it banned from BASS Tournaments even all tournaments.
Because the ability to say "The Lure/Rig that's banned from tournaments" will sell millions of these to non tournament anglers and any angler fishing a circuit that allows it.
I was thinking by spring sales would fall off on this rig but now I'm sure the numbers will sky rocket.
I can see it now........
Opening day on Lake St. Clair there will be 500+ of these running the shallows
And many anglers will lose thier A-Rigs to many muskie.
Quote from: Jay-MadWags on January 19, 2012, 07:57:39 PM
And many anglers will lose thier A-Rigs to many muskie.
yea, but at least it will be a blast doing it
Quote from: Roy Randolph on January 19, 2012, 04:57:46 PM
Anyone consider the possibility that this is a ploy by the manufacturer?
You know the thought did cross my mind
But It was a ploy by the other manufactures
Last year after the classic
Sq. bill crank baits were the rage, and they sold a ton
Year before that
Red eye shad
The year before that, Any thing in Sexy Shad
I really don't think that Mann whated or tried to get the rig banned
But the thought that a few of the other players in the game didn't what to play
with the rig in the game did cross my mind
Quote from: bob o on January 19, 2012, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: Jay-MadWags on January 19, 2012, 07:57:39 PM
And many anglers will lose thier A-Rigs to many muskie.
yea, but at least it will be a blast doing it
Maybe for the "Wealthy Bass Angler".
Sorry to say, but rangerfan hit the nail on the head. KVD don't like them there for they are band. He runs everything..... I know there are a lot of manufactors like my self that would really be hurt by the local tournaments banding this rig. BASS is messed up, and FLW has a real good opportunity to take advantage of this ban.
I my self am not sure if I will even fish it.... Really not even sure how often it would work in Michigan, but with that said all tournaments should follow the state law!
I don't think we'll see large scale bans. Just scattered pockets where the fear of change is strongest mixed with a little 'why didn't I think of that before Paul Eliasitis' too!
I am curious about who pushed the hardest for the ban on the B.A.S.S. tournament angler committee group (whatever it is called?)? That might help explain why a little better. I just can't see Kevin trying to get a hot lure banned?? Maybe. But it doesn't quite fit.
FLW will take advantage. They always have.
I think it will work real good in Michigan. We have a sight fishing state and this technique is made for clear water. I'm betting the first tournaments are won on it in Michigan by the end of the spawn though the people doing it may not talk a lot about it! ;D
The summer weights will be surprising to some people but the fall weights should be really, really good on a lot of lakes. Our bass haven't even seen this thing yet. Mostly.
FLW's response: No ban
http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/153206/flw-clarifies-position-on-alabama-rig/
Here is another question about the A-Rig. Ive been watching quite a few videos about the rig and I saw a version where you would put willow leaf blades on the wire arms that arent being used. If you would put blades on four of the wires and then one would be a swimbait or whatever? Wouldnt it just be a big spinnerbait then? I dont know if it would work but it would still look like a school of bait fish. If it would work do you think B.A.S.S. would let it fly in the Elites. It would only be one lure, like I said just a big spinnerbait. What do you guys think?
I think I don't really understand why some people have reacted so strong to this new lure. But some people reacted to strong to plastic worms, fishfinders and other new wonders. There are spinnerbaits on the market with up to 5 blades but they are on one arm.
I could see someone arguing they only have one lure body rigged like you suggest but I wouldn't want to be the test subject if I was in the Elite Series. 'Here rookie, give this a try.' I was thinking - what if you put 5 minnow bodies on it but only 1 body has a hook? Again, I would let the rookie test the rules out first ;D
Just seems to me the A rig goes away from the 1 rod 1 line 1 bait mentaility.
Now its OK to toss 5 baits @ 1 time, ok how about 8 or 10 unlimited even, how is that benificial?
Great idea stolen from the salt water guys but again how can 5 baits tossed @ 1 time show skill?
Pro's are suposed to be chuck full of skill, if so why do they need the A-Rig!
BD
Quote from: bassdisaster on January 27, 2012, 07:08:14 AM
Just seems to me the A rig goes away from the 1 rod 1 line 1 bait mentaility.
Now its OK to toss 5 baits @ 1 time, ok how about 8 or 10 unlimited even, how is that benificial?
Great idea stolen from the salt water guys but again how can 5 baits tossed @ 1 time show skill?
Pro's are suposed to be chuck full of skill, if so why do they need the A-Rig!
BD
There's a limit on the number of hooks
It's what ever the staate law is
As far as skill
I don't think the fish hook them self with the rig
You still need to know when, were and how to throw it
If your going to ban any thing
Let's ban SI or, Etc
How about we don't ban anything? All this talk of "if they are going to ban XXX then why don't we just go ahead and ban YYY" is getting out of hand. It's not about the states "banning" the A-rig. Each state has it's own regulations for hook number, size, etc... and the regulations limiting such things were in place well before the A-rig came along.
Winter sucks. Spring will be here eventually... till then shop online, go to Bass Pro Shops, visit Ken at KD Outdoors, hit up the fishing shows, watch WFN, read you favorite fishing magazine, post here on GLB and I'm sure we will all make it!!
Well said Waterfoul. My thoughts exactly.
I don't really want anything banned...
This just happens to be the topic of the winter for us. Remember when it was drop shot debate, Catch and release season debate. It's always something. There have been a bunch of tournys in Florida and I have not read a thing about anyone throwing the rig.
It was amazing at the novi show seeing how many were bought. Mccarter hung one on a pole and people just stared at it in wonder. It does look cool with all them baits hanging off it. I may even hang one on my deck this summer for my friends to stare at.
Yea,
THere's a dare good chance that it becomes a wind chime in the back yard
If it doesn't catch the fish. LOL
It's goiing to be a long winter
Quote from: dartag on January 27, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
This just happens to be the topic of the winter for us. Remember when it was drop shot debate, Catch and release season debate. It's always something. There have been a bunch of tournys in Florida and I have not read a thing about anyone throwing the rig.
It was amazing at the novi show seeing how many were bought. Mccarter hung one on a pole and people just stared at it in wonder. It does look cool with all them baits hanging off it. I may even hang one on my deck this summer for my friends to stare at.
It would probably do well as a bird perch.... at least 5 sparrows could land on it to rest their weary wings. ;D
too funny. good ideas for the A rig. :D
I was trying figure out what kind of fish a bird perch was?!? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxvJgMw9ZaE
A few opinions.
I don't think anything should be outlawed because someone is worried that now they have to have one in the boat or that they'll get beaten by it. That is mostly what is driving this issue. It won't work all the time. But it will work real good some of the time. Maybe a lot of the time?!?