Well the GY senko's are really getting to be outrages these days
Bass pro has them for 7.99 a bag and even [REMOVED - see No Links Policy List (http://www.greatlakesbass.com/forum/index.php?topic=11129.0)] is 7.49
They do catch fish
But I'm in search of a cheaper senko these days
So who fishes another brand? And do they work better then the GY's
I like Van Dam's Ochos by Strike King. Very supple, great action, and KVD really does use them. I know he's sponsored but, he does use them. Caught a lot of fish on them myself. Need to use the O-ring though. They are very soft.
Try the nemesis sicko
Quote from: thedude on December 06, 2010, 10:08:53 AM
Try the nemesis sicko
I have
They are soft
The color was just wrong for me. And they were more money then the GY
last year?
Komodo Dragon: hand-poured brand out of South Bend. impregnated scent. Soft, but more durable than Yamamoto.
$4.25 per 10
http://www.randbbasscircuit.com/uploads/Catalog1.pdf (http://www.randbbasscircuit.com/uploads/Catalog1.pdf)
I like the Nemesis Sickos as well. Softer...so they don't last for so long...but they do have a great action...even wacky rigged. I guess it's a trade off...softer, good action...fish throw them off easily...but they are cheaper overall. Do like the colors though.
Yum Dinger and Wave Tiki sticks. 20 counts for $2.99 On-Line. A little trick to getting more life out of them is to buy a piece of 3/8 clear shrink tubing and cut it into 1/4 inch pieces. Slide it on and add a little heat with a propane torch to tighten it up. Hook the bait thru the heat shrink. Usually I get 1 or 2 fish out of a senko type bait but by rigging this way I can get anywhere from 4 to 10 fish on one bait. This also works with nose hooked or wacky rigged worms, you just need smaller diameter heat shrink.
Quote from: Manxfishing on December 06, 2010, 09:46:39 AMWell the GY senko's are really getting to be outrages these days. Bass pro has them for 7.99 a bag and even removed is 7.49
That is a shame, I really can't believe they keep increasing these every year! I would have thought the ceiling was $6.99...
I may have found an alternative but need to be certain before I mention it...
Duane
bucketmouth baits in GR (hand pour) are 3.99 for 8. they have great action.
I also like the Nemesis Sicko. They seem to last a lot longer than the senko. Senko's are one fish and done. I can usually get 2 or 3 fish out of a Sicko. Sicko's are also softer so the fish hold onto them longer. You should get ahold of Brian from Nemesis Baits, he can make u just about any color u want and might cut u a deal if you buy them in bulk.
Nemisis Sicko all the way. The last post hit the nail on the head. Brian has taken good care of me so give him a shout.
Nemesis sicko. Color a problem? Custom colors with no minimum, have the boys duplicate the color you want. Or one you want that nobody makes.
Best soft stick? Depends on the day. Each is a little different in density, so different fall rates for each one. Any could be the ticket that day in particular.
Day in/Day out, Nemesis & GYCB are the most consistent fish catchers for me.
And for those who might disagree, go stick a sticko in your ocho!
Quote from: thedude on December 06, 2010, 01:08:39 PM
bucketmouth baits in GR (hand pour) are 3.99 for 8. they have great action.
I agree...you should check them out! I don't fish any other stick bait anymore.
Check them out here: http://www.bucketmouthfishing.com/
When it comes to Senkos nothing beats the real thing. Rumor is There is a guy on Union Lake that tears them in half and uses a weighted hook. Just another rumor. ;D
I like the Nemesis sicko and is the best option in my opinion if you dont want to drop the extra coin on gycb. I find it hard to use anything other than the real thing though and stock up when tackle sites have 20% off so its under $6 a bag. I was told yamamoto uses a sand in there formula which is to expensive or difficult to pour and is why nobody else can duplicate. I have tried many knock offs and not one has the same wiggle or shimmy and some days that action will get you more bites. I still use the sickos alot but when its tough or money is on the line im throwing the real thing.
I use Xtreme Bass Tackle X-worms and Nemesis Sickos.
Another nod to the Nemesis Sicko. Brian has made me several custom colors over the years (most of which are now offered on his website) and they WORK. I don't fish a ton of stick baits these days, but there are those times when they just seem to be the ticket, and when that is the case I always throw the Sickos.
It's interesting that so many people like the Nemesis Sicko.
But even buying the GY at 7.49 a bag for 10 or the Nemesis for 5.99 for 8
there the same price (.75 a piece)
I'm really after a cheaper Senko
Guess I am not sure if I would ever worry about the cost of the bait, if I really thought one was better than the other. I am sure that there are many less expensive ones available, however would the savings really be worth it? To save 2 bucks a bag or .20 a bait seems like a lot but only matters if you are catching fish. If a bait only catches one fish a piece and you catch your limit youre looking at what five bucks in bait. On a good day tournament or not if you catch ten keeper bass you are or should be happy. With this then you would spend roughly what ten bucks?? I wish I could feel confident I would spend ten bucks durring every tournament or day out fishing on plastic worms. Why skimp on the price if it is the worm that works. I only fish GY I have some Sickos that were made personaly for me however I catch the most on GY so I fish GY I would not worry about price when you are talking about saving a couple bucks a trip and that is if the trip is a good one.
The below link might help....................
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7980665 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7980665)
Ok, So I sound crazy
At least I wasn't the @itch
Loved it
Quote from: djkimmel on December 06, 2010, 09:19:34 PM
I use Xtreme Bass Tackle X-worms and Nemesis Sickos.
The Xtreme X-Worms are poured by Bucket Mouth.
I don't want to click that link unless it is the one about the girlfriend being launched from the back deck of the boat...??
Quote from: Cy on December 07, 2010, 09:59:53 PM
Quote from: djkimmel on December 06, 2010, 09:19:34 PM
I use Xtreme Bass Tackle X-worms and Nemesis Sickos.
The Xtreme X-Worms are poured by Bucket Mouth.
Yes... but they're in the Xtreme Bass Tackle colors I really like. A lot!
I wish I had an aquarium to watch, tape and post the fall difference between brands. Has anyone done this to see the differences, if any, between them? ???
Check U-tube
This guy has allot of the stick baits on video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJlkPwv3O8
We just put up a pool this fall - you know what I will be using it for next year!
I experiment a lot.
The Yum dinger in Mardi Gras color or the grey and white version are pretty good.
The X worm has great colors, and is denser than the some other stick worms. Works great on a day when you want a faster sink rate.
For me, day in and day out, the Nemesis 4" Sicko in the KLK color just seems to out fish the rest. They are soft, and they do tear quicker than the Dinger, but they also have a different action because they are softer.
I believe that it is this action that catches the numbers of fish that it does.
If money is an issue, then throw torn worms in the bottom of the boat. Superglue them back together when you get home.
Quote from: Manxfishing on December 07, 2010, 02:16:03 PM
It's interesting that so many people like the Nemesis Sicko.
But even buying the GY at 7.49 a bag for 10 or the Nemesis for 5.99 for 8
there the same price (.75 a piece)
I'm really after a cheaper Senko
For the time, effort, supplies, and resources it takes for a small independent manufacturer to make a bait, $.75 is not pricey. Unless someone has a huge 50 bait injection mold (which would cost upwards of maybe $350-$400) and can make a thousand baits per day, the actual profit per bait is minimal as it is. Any less and it's called a "hobby". Sorry.
A good reason why I'll pay Cheetam and Carolina Chip some serious $$ for a crankbait is that I can get a custom bait made that I like much more than many $5.99 cookie-cutter, cheap paint job, never gonna run true bait. Here's the main one, I personally know these guys and I'll keep my money "in the family" for a topnotch, high quality product!
Not speaking for BMac, Horling, Wayne, or any others, just offering a new perspective from the flip-side.
A big-time "addiction" to bass fishing isn't cheap! I worked in the skiing industry back in college and if I hadn't worked at a ski shop, had support from K2, Marker, and others I couldn't have had 5 pairs of skis and traveled all over. On the other hand, I would've done much better at UM had I not been so obsessed with skiing! ;D
Good luck in your search, sir!
Scott
Is it ok if I change direction a little here. Since a few have mentioned it already, what is your favorite size senco to use and your favorite way of rigging??? I usually use the 5inch and texas rig them weightless. But I'm open to change. lolol
Now on the original topic, I tried some BPS baits at a sale price of $3.99 for 20 would work on the shallow water bass on my home lake. Didn't think it would make much difference... ummmm the jury is still out but it seems it does make a difference. lol
Jeff,
For me it's a 5" as well but I like to rig them wacky
Wieghtless for shallow
But I have done well some days weighted with a nail weight
It all depends on the wind or how deep I'm trying to fish.
So what rod do you like to throw them on?
For me
It's a 6'-9" med kistler with a 10# test
It all depends on the day and the mood of the fish. I fish senko style baits very often and depending on the rate of fall I want I use Nemesis Stickos, Yum Dingers, Yamamoto's, and the BPS stickos. They each have their own rate of fall and flutter and I change often. The youtube link posted shows this well. I rig them both wacky and weightless Texas depending on cover.