So i finally got to go out and whack some fish using a deep diving crankbait and now im really hooked on it. Unfortunatly, LSC got my deep cranking stick and a revo s. I am thinking i am going to order the same one again but was kinda thinking about the Quantum Tour KVD Cranking stick, too. I have played with it a lot in BPS and it feels really good. It surprisingly light for its size and has good tip and lots of backbone. Anyone have one of these? and if so, how do you like it? and what is everyone else using for deep crankin?
McCarter himself :-\'
I assume you read all of this recent thread: http://www.greatlakesbass.com/forum/index.php?topic=8536.0
i always thought the kvd's were heavy. plus i've never seen a quantum with straight guides before. i want to say they weigh a lot when compared to a loomis or st. croix graphite crankin blank. I don't like graphite though... take a look at the skeet reese s-glass crankin rod. I think powell has a nice glass one too.
the powell was great, that is the rod i just lost. probably just get that one again but was just wondering what rods the rest of the gang are using
McCarter himself :-\'
I'm still using crankbait rods from a previous sponsorship deal from several years ago, but I'm switching over to Grandt Rods as budget allows. I would consider using the 7' foot C10 All American I have now for crankbaits, but it is also an excellent spinnerbait rod for tossing the flats.
MadWags recommended the 7' All American (http://www.grandtrods.com/store/proddetail.asp?prod=AMPS-7-0-C), 7 1/2' All American for traps and crankbaits and their E-glass 7' for larger, deeper running crankbaits.
I might get another C10 (says M/H but it is on the softer edge of the M/H curve), but I want to try out the C09 at the Novi Show this winter to see if it might fit crankbaits better on the small to midsize better.
I will also look at the C11 to see how stiff their heavy action is in the 7' All American. That might be a good big crankbait rod, or if too heavy maybe just use another C10. And maybe a 7' 6" All American (http://www.grandtrods.com/store/proddetail.asp?prod=AMPS-7-6-C) would be better for bigger crankbaits? I've used them before with mixed feelings. Great for open lakes and the Great Lakes, but a little tougher on inland lakes and rivers if you get into close fishing with bigger lures. Granted, that isn't real common.
The only 7' 6" Grandt casting rod I have right now is the flipping stick that I use more for toad/rat fishing.
I know my C10 I use for big water spinnerbaiting is light and very sensitive. I've talked before about how much better I can feel what that blades are doing with it verses previous rods I've using including rods that retail for $50 - $60 more.
Without a doubt, Dobyns 764CB RM Randy McAbee signature rod. You can check one out at Mike's Rx or KD's.
Hate to be a homer here, but for the money the 7'0 grandt glass rod is the best. Its sensitive, med backbone and hooks fish well.
Id say to have the ultimate crankin stick you would have to spend twice as much to get the lighter weight, heavier backboned, more sensitive stick. If anyone knows of this combo for crankin sticks chime in .... cause until I hear about it - for the money Grandt is a great stick
PS: how did you lose your original stick and Revo ? and you cant compare the Skeeter to the Grandt ............
I have 2 of the Quantum cranking rods, they are nice. I haven't used the Grandt to compare.
Biggest problem with them is that I can't put down the drop shot long enough to throw the crank. I have box after box of the stupid things and have not made more than 10 or 15 casts with a crank this year.
I could clean the Z21 out and just throw in a couple bags of plastic, little bitty hooks and a few weights and 1 rod... :-\'
I need to get better at crankin', they may quit smokin the drop shot someday! :o
Crankbaits are fun! Probably depends on where you do most of your fishing. Though I hear rumors that some big, big catches are made on the Great Lakes on crankbaits too...
there isn't a day i fish when there isn't 2-4 crankbaits tied and ready to cast on my boat. this winter i plan on making 1 or 2 fiberglass crankbait rods i'll most likley end up with 7' lamaglass blanks w/micro guides
http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Lamiglas-Bass-Blanks/Fiberglass-Crankin
Some here have seen me work the crank. I have the utmost confidence in cranks for big fish. As KVD will tell you, if you know the fish are there, it just takes patience and the crank will get the big fish, All of my big fish have come on the crank. I use the 7' medium action and medium heavey action E glass Grandt rods for crankin the lake. The action has what it takes to handle large smallies on the feed.
the kvd crankin rod is my favorite, in my opinion it is the best one out there. its sensitive, strong, and gives you a nice cast
I agree - my KVD crankin rod is awesome and great value for the price.
Dont overlook the BPS Crankin Stick. All new for 2010, lighter, more sensitive and new colors. :)
But I never catch fish crankin....lol
What's wrong with you?!? ;D
I have been using the Loomis graphite crank bait rods for a couple years now and I would be hard pressed to fish with another crankin' rod. I simple love them.
I can't speak to the feel of the Grandt.
I think the KVD things are heavy and poorly built. I have not seen and straight blank or guides on one of those suckers yet.
The BPS crankin' stick is total crap! I bought one fished it once and sold it. Worst purchase I ever made.
I may however consider a glass rod next time just to see what I think of it.
Cy
You have to consider the large cost difference associated with the rods you mention. Sometimes the performance verses cost can be better for less expensive rods.
Loomis makes the best graphite cranking stick IMO but pricey and it really ticks me off that they changed there return costs. Still wont keep me from buying them though since nothing compares, you could probably find a new one for under $150 if you look around.
Try the new Loomis deep flex cranking rod. I was fishing Saturday with a friend who had a Powell cranking rod. I let him use my deep flex 7'2" med hvy with a curado E-5 and he could not believe the difference in the two. He is selling his Powell and getting a deep flex. Your welcome to try it out Brian if you like. I was throwing DT14's and 16's with no problems.
The new Loomis NRX rods debut this Friday. Under a new program Loomis is only sending them to certain dealers to start. According to what I read, there will not be any dealers in MI for the early unveiling. What's up with that Looooommiiisss.
"G. Loomis brand manager Justin Poe noted: "By utilizing a stiffer, lighter and higher-density carbon married with Nano Silica resin systems, we can provide Steve and his design team with a material that provides all kinds of positive benefits to anglers. The rods are lighter, yet more durable, extremely sensitive, and yet stiffer. Obviously we simply think they're the best rods out there."
MSRP for the NRX series ranges from $450 to $500. As they say, you get what you pay for.
For the full list of dealers that will offer the NRX rods this Friday, click here. (If you live in Michigan you're out of luck for the time being. ??? :o >:( )
For more about the NRX rods including a list of the various models, visit the NRX section of GLoomis.com."
I can buy three really good crankbait rods that I will catch a ton of bass on for that money. WITH a lifetime warranty.
Unconditional
I also have 2 Loomis graphite cranking rods and would put them up against any other cranking rod out there. I have tried a few other brands but the Loomis are tops in my book. That being said, I will not be buying any more Loomis rods as I just can't justify the cost anymore.
I have not tried Grandt cranking rods yet, maybe I will pick one up over the winter to try.
Now, not to hijack the thread, but how did Loomis change their warranty?
Willie
I have the Tour KVD rod that just came out this year. I bought the 7' 2" MH rod. I also bought the 7.3:1 KVD Tour bait caster. I like the combo. The rod may be a little on the heavy side. I guess it just depends on the person. I bought it mainly for spinnerbaits, and had a heavier line on it than I normally use. I just recently swithched to a 10 pound test line, and started throwing cranks on it. I like it, but it was a $217 rod.
Just won a Loomis CBR855c GLX for $220 "Brand New" on Ebay (MSRP $385) That's the way to buy them. They are top notch rods.
while we are on the crankin stick conversation - What causes smallish to become unbuttoned on cranks ? Could it be the stick ? line ? treble hooks ? Chime in.
What do you do to minimize losing fish ?? (Asking for a friend of course ::) )
Quote from: Mojo on August 13, 2010, 12:09:34 AM
while we are on the crankin stick conversation - What causes smallish to become unbuttoned on cranks ? Could it be the stick ? line ? treble hooks ? Chime in.
What do you do to minimize losing fish ?? (Asking for a friend of course ::) )
Yes to all. For me, don't horse the fish to the boat, let the rod play the fish, and loosen the drag if you have to while playing the fish.
the rod helps fight the fish - but if you don't play them well to begin with, it doesn't matter.
Quote from: Mojo on August 13, 2010, 12:09:34 AM
while we are on the crankin stick conversation - What causes smallish to become unbuttoned on cranks ? Could it be the stick ? line ? treble hooks ? Chime in.
What do you do to minimize losing fish ?? (Asking for a friend of course ::) )
don't leave out the reel, your drag setting also plays a big roll in the too. a more limber rod will also give the fish "room to play" by flexing more.
Quote from: thedude on August 13, 2010, 09:52:40 AM
the rod helps fight the fish - but if you don't play them well to begin with, it doesn't matter.
Exactly, don't horse the fish to the boat.
Oh come on.... set the hook, ski em to the boat!!!
Sometimes you just live and die by the crank. If the fish doesn't eat it well they can use the body of the bait as leverage to disengage themselves. Especially on bigger body baits like the DD22. I never lose fish on a crank. ::)
Ahhlolololol ! !! Well if I ever catch on a crank bait I'll remember all these fine insights ..... ;D
Keep enough pressure on the fish so he can't shake it but so much you rip them out. Also, how ever you fish in practice, fish that way in the tournament. If you are using alot of pressure in practice don't baby them in the tournament. If your not using a net in the tournament don't practice with it. I talked to multiple accomplished tournament anglers and found most will agree.
I have the KVD 7'11" crankin stick and I love it. [REMOVED - see No Links Policy List (http://www.greatlakesbass.com/forum/index.php?topic=11129.0)] has a few 20% off sales every year. It's hard to pick up a 7 footer after using the 7 11.
Believe it or not, I use a 6 foot uglystick medium action and catch bass all the time without losing them. Every once in awhile I will lose one but not alot with this rod.
I have two of the David Fritts signature series from basspro. I have a 6,6 and the 7,6. Both are nice rods and with 10lb line i can throw the small square lipped baits all the way up to the big norman dd22. They are made by American Rodsmiths.
Quote from: bassboss on August 18, 2010, 03:42:16 PM
I have two of the David Fritts signature series from basspro. I have a 6,6 and the 7,6. Both are nice rods and with 10lb line i can throw the small square lipped baits all the way up to the big norman dd22. They are made by American Rodsmiths.
I have the American Rodsmith models of the Fritts Signature Series. I have three (3) of them. I also have 4 of the old Browning David Fritts Crankin Stick. Those were even more sensitive than the American Rodsmith models. Don't get me wrong, I like the American Rodsmith version, but the Browning version was a better rod for the money for throwing big deep divers. I have thrown DD22's on them as well as the Storm Mag Wart and the big jumbo Bomber. I think it was called the 9A. There is no better rod than either one of those for throwing big cranks.
BD ;D
I have an All Star and love it.
Quote from: bob o on August 13, 2010, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Mojo on August 13, 2010, 12:09:34 AM
while we are on the crankin stick conversation - What causes smallish to become unbuttoned on cranks ? Could it be the stick ? line ? treble hooks ? Chime in.
What do you do to minimize losing fish ?? (Asking for a friend of course ::) )
don't leave out the reel, your drag setting also plays a big roll in the too. a more limber rod will also give the fish "room to play" by flexing more.
Also depends on the depth of the bait/water. 6' and less I use a flipping stick, heavy line and good triple grip hooks. When they bite that shallow, they head for the surface and will also charge the boat getting slack in the line. I like the heavy rod to stick the hooks good. Deep baits, I use the horrible Bass Pro crankin stick MH mentioned above. They work good for me and I catch alot of fish with them. For the price/performance, I will stick with them. Deep crankbait fish seem to just be happy pulling sideways and digging and rarely head for the surface.