I know everyone is into all of the super lines and such, but i'm still a mono-a-holic! Most of the fishing I do i use mono, except for jigs and tossin topwater into pads. Whats the best mono u've found? I used to really love spiderwire XXX, but i think they might have changed there design, it doesnt seem to hold up like it used to.
Check out P-Line Evolution (http://www.p-line.com/product_detail.php?id=602) for the future of nylon line fishing (the future is now with P-Line).
thats a hybrid, not a mono!
Up until a few years ago I used nothing but Trilene XT. But I had to try all the floro's, braided and hybrids. Now that I've done that I'm going back to the simple life! (Except for Fireline anad Topwater) ;D
I dont use ANY super lines, I use Trilene XT or Gamma and I dont break off ANY fish!
I use Bass Pro Shops Excel line mostly. As does Skip, I don't break ANY fish off either. Of course with mono you have to check and re-tie and that is why I don't break of ANY fish. I also use different Stren monos at times and Berkley or whatever mono is on sale. I am not a big believer in these super lines. I have tried them all. I think you spend extra money on these supers for nothing. You may not have to change line on your reel as much as I do, but that is only for convenience in my mind. Just my 3 cents on monos versus super lines.
BD ;D
I'm a Stren Original kinda guy. It has some good stretch for really laying it to em when you feel the bite
Gamma is copolymer, not mono.
i use 8, 12 or 15lb pline premium or fluoro-clear (copolys) or gamma 12/15. Used to use berkley XL but the copolys are just way stronger.
Trilene Big game
For me
I'm going to XT this year on the crank rod
I'm after the strech and being a Walleye guy at heart I have spools of 10# in the garage
Most of my other rods are all spooled in a copolymer
I like the McCoy Mean Green in 10 or 12#
Never have break offs, it's more senative (less strech) then mono and it's priced right. The 10# 1000 yd spools are 18 bucks
I use P-Line Evolution and CX Premium for just about everything that I do not use braid for. No problems, well except for 1 time on St. Clair. I think that was Skip's fault. :D
Willie
Trilene XT is my poison.....
For me, it's P-Line CXX X-tra Strong on all of my baitcasters (except two flippin' sticks). Moss green 10lb. for pitchin', worming, and Carolina rigging, clear 10lb. for cranking, clear 15lb. for spinnerbaits, and moss green 25lb. on one flippin' stick.
Quote from: Hooksetter on February 05, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
I use P-Line Evolution and CX Premium for just about everything that I do not use braid for. No problems, well except for 1 time on St. Clair. I think that was Skip's fault. :D
Willie
Willie Im just able to look into the future and the future told me you had a bad spool of line, it had nothing to do with p line...if you believe that Ive got prime ocean front property in Iowa for sale ;D
Hows thast p line been treating ya bud....do we need to do another trip together so my fish can prove again what garbage that stuff is....just yankin yur chain bro, Im still laughing about that and I think that was like 3 years ago.
Vicious makes a mono I tried primarily because I was intrigued by the box or package design. It has a grommet built in to the box so all you do is feed the line through and reel. It's one of those deals like why doesn't everybody sell their line like this. Works really well and the mono worked fine for me. I'm an old XT XL fan, but this stuff really worked well.
http://www.vicious-fishing.com/vicious-line/ultimate.html
I use Stren mono on my reels. I used Pline floro coated on all of my spinning rods up until the middle of last year. I don't know why, but the last spool I bought just snapped everytime I would try to set the hook. I used that line for 4 or 5 years and loved it, maybe it was just a bad spool.
Quote from: LipRip on February 05, 2010, 04:03:58 AM
thats a hybrid, not a mono!
Just trying to broaden your horizons... most lines are some type of polymer, blend or chemical bond mix nowadays anyway. Just because a line is called monofilament does not mean it only contains one type of nylon. They are almost all some type of blend. Have to keep all those college chemists in some type of honest work.
I use a line because it does what I need it to do not because it is a blend, polymer, copolymer, bond, mono, tri, bi, coated, stranded, fused or whatever.
Try it out. See how it performs. If it does the job very well, then use it regardless of what it is called or how it is marketed. Just remember all that is between you and that big fish is that line. That's why I use good, quality line I can depend on. Fishing is pretty important to me.
If you want real tough line that isn't a braid, try the CXX like I think Vince mentioned. I still use a lot of the Halo myself except for things where I need the line to not sink fast.
I'm going to try the Hydrofloat line this year for topwaters that don't require a little finesse. I might not need 80 lbs test to rip giant prop baits like I did in the Amazon, but it is just easier to get action out of a topwater when you have almost no stretch (similar to using braid for jerkbaits, another thing I plan on doing more of). I always say use the best tool for the job, not the one you like, but the best tool. You'll enjoy your fishing more that way.
I know what ur sayin dan, I was plannin on trying out some of the p-line's products this year.
But, back to mono!..............I've used my fair share of trilene xl, since its been getting harder to get spiderwire xxx. But it seems that i get some spools that really hold up and some that break for no reason (doing the same kind of fishing.) I check my knots for abbrations frequently.....dunno.
Has anyone tried out sufix?
Quote from: LAPORTE on February 05, 2010, 08:26:00 AM
I'm a Stren Original kinda guy. It has some good stretch for really laying it to em when you feel the bite
I am with you bro, I don't use much mono, but when I do it is Stren Origianal (green)! I used to use nothing but stren original in clear blue and green, then I found copolys and flouros, with the occasional braid.
I'm gonna try out the new Suffix, deep cranking line. It's sinking mono. What do you guy's think about using 8# for deep cranking and jerking? I wanna scrape the bottom in 20 fow on St. Clair this year. Gonna try it with the little John DD, or the new Strike King series 6xd.
I wouldn't use anything less than 12# for baitcast and 10# for spinning with mono. I seem to break line a lot when i set the hook if i go any lighter than that. Maybe i just have some built up aggression that i take out on the bass when i set the hook!?! Give em the ole steroid jerk!!!!! lol
I have never used green line. I just thought a colored line would be more visible to fish, not less. How could a line be less visible than clear!?!?!?!
Quote from: LipRip on February 06, 2010, 02:12:25 AM
I have never used green line. I just thought a colored line would be more visible to fish, not less. How could a line be less visible than clear!?!?!?!
Well, they make camoflauge clothing to blend in with the surroundings. Why not line?
I prefer a lo-vis green. At least that is what I am using when using Bass Pro Excel line. In Berkley line I try to stay with a lo-vis green or what they call photo-chromatic. In Stren, lo-vis green again.
BD ;D
Quote from: LipRip on February 06, 2010, 02:12:25 AM
I have never used green line. I just thought a colored line would be more visible to fish, not less. How could a line be less visible than clear!?!?!?!
Yea,
I hear you, I used to think the same thing
I do like the clear better for night fishing thou
Found out I can see the line better over the green
Thats the only time I ever had a problem with P-Line. I have had bad spools of line from other brands too. P-Line has been perfect for me since then. It's the only brand I use. I have complete confidence in it!
Willie
On my reels without braid, I've had good experiences with Suffix on spininng reels - seems a little stronger than XL and still handles pretty well. Green only for me, and usually 10lb - just my preference. XT on baitcasters, 14lb is my mainstay. Other than pike bite-off's, I don't think I've broke off on a fish in several years now. Darn, now I just jinxed myself!
Trilene XT 14 or 17lb for topwater and spinnerbaits
Quote from: Durand Dan on February 06, 2010, 06:16:28 AM
Quote from: LipRip on February 06, 2010, 02:12:25 AM
I have never used green line. I just thought a colored line would be more visible to fish, not less. How could a line be less visible than clear!?!?!?!
Well, they make camoflauge clothing to blend in with the surroundings. Why not line?
If they made a clothing to make you clear, it would be better than camo!? right? =)
Quote from: Dan on February 05, 2010, 05:46:57 PM
Vicious makes a mono I tried primarily because I was intrigued by the box or package design. It has a grommet built in to the box so all you do is feed the line through and reel. It's one of those deals like why doesn't everybody sell their line like this. Works really well and the mono worked fine for me. I'm an old XT XL fan, but this stuff really worked well.
http://www.vicious-fishing.com/vicious-line/ultimate.html
I have that line in 14# LoVis green on a rod
I like the line
Here's my thoughts
It's a copolymer and doesn't have much strech at all
It's thick thou, like cable compared to #10 McCoy
I throw craws on it or it doubles as the spinner rod
Quote from: LipRip on February 06, 2010, 01:37:53 AM
I wouldn't use anything less than 12# for baitcast and 10# for spinning with mono. I seem to break line a lot when i set the hook if i go any lighter than that. Maybe i just have some built up aggression that i take out on the bass when i set the hook!?! Give em the ole steroid jerk!!!!! lol
Sounds like a pretty agressive hookset for crankin'. Maybe try a glass or composite rod and a sweeping hookset and 8# should be fine.
agressive hooksets are so much fun tho!
so back to my point about clear being less visible than a color...........has anyone seen predator!??!?!? :o
"if it bleeds, we can kill it"
McCarter himself :-\'
"GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQF_DR_uDU4
Quote from: LipRip on February 06, 2010, 02:09:41 PM
If they made a clothing to make you clear, it would be better than camo!? right? =)
Depends on whether or not you were listening when you Mom always told you to remember to wear clean underwear??
Actually, in old color reaction studies for bass performed down south, the color green was shown to illicit the least negative reaction at all times from largemouth bass. Yellow was shown to illicit the most negative reaction most often. I believe red was shown to illicit either a very aggressive reaction or a negative reaction at various times and/or with various individual bass.
I'd like to read this study......if you could find it!
It was done I think way back in the 70's possibly in Oklahoma? I think Dr. Loren Hill was involved, but my memory that far back is pretty much like the holes in Swiss cheese without the cheese...
Hal Schramm might know about it? Anyone have his number?
I'm pretty sure it was Loren Hill---probably a study designed to sell his Color-C-lector
It was before the Color-C-Lector and the whole problem I always had with that thought process was just because it was the most visible color didn't mean the bass wanted to hit something that color... whereas the study actually dealt with reaction to color, not what colors where more or less visible.
Quote from: thedude on February 05, 2010, 08:38:31 AM
Gamma is copolymer, not mono.
i use 8, 12 or 15lb pline premium or fluoro-clear (copolys) or gamma 12/15. Used to use berkley XL but the copolys are just way stronger.
for copolymers, you just cannot beat Siver Thread, its not easy to find, but I love it!!!! That stuff could double as a tow strap in a pinch ;D