Watch the short video to the pro's react to their first peak at the New Yamaha Game Changer! (http://www.yamahagamechanger.com/?utm_source=yamaha&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=proreactions)
Click on the "View pro reactions video" button once you go there.
Another reason why I trust Yamaha's 'Turn the Key Reliability' for all my fishing.
But Dan, are they ever going to stop teasing and tell us the whole story? Looks fast anyway
Says to come back Nov 20th... the suspense is killing me. I'd like to see some non-yamaha pros react to the engine rather than the guys in the blue hats.
I don't get all the suspense and hype.... is it the Verado II or something? ;D
its an outboard... they can act like its revolutionary all they want but unless its gets 20mpgs with no performance loss across the spectrum, it really won't be anything other than hype. don't get me wrong - i like yami's as much as the next guy but if its so fantastic and revolutionary then lets see it....
way i see it, its the new marketing thing to do with your new motor - 1st mercury verado, then the 'rude etech, and now this. Improved engines? sure in some respects. Neither were all that exciting. Does the opinion of a few guys sponsored by Yamaha really lend that much more credence to it?
Didn't mean to rant, i just get sick of super-hyped marketing..... you can thank Apple computers and the 2008 elections for that! Give me some substance!
LOL apparently it is the Verado II
http://www.basszone.com/2009quickflips/gamechanger2.htm
dude... you must be psycho!!
Shoot!!! I'm tired. I meant psychic! Psychic!
Actually, the motor does sound pretty amazing! I wouldn't call it a verado. That's like comparing a bus to a Porsche from the description and from my experiences with verados. Those things were massive and I did not really believe that many bass anglers would want to hang something that huge on the back of their performance rig.
That has been the main issue with 4 stroke motors all along. Weight versus performance compared to 2 stroke motors. Sounds like Yamaha may have leaped ahead a couple generations...
i agree with you Dan. From the article, it sounds like yamaha has successfully addressed the weight issues - however i don't know how small you can actually make a 4.2l v6! :o I hope its a great motor and a stepping stone to more efficient and powerful outboards in the future.
like i said though, when you can make any engine that gets GOOD gas mileage (like as good or better than my TRUCK) then i'm really going to be impressed. There's 15 year old motors that can put out tons of power (with some tweaks) and get bad gas milage... i find it hard to justify the cost of some of these state-of-the-art engines coming out that don't really offer that much more and come with a huge price tag.
The Verado's are big in size, but you can hear a pin drop at full speed. My fathers 250,out of the water, dwarfs me standing next to it. A Quiet motor has a big advantage in alot of cases. If they could put the technology of a Verado in a V-Max size.. now your talking. I imagine this is just hype though...
The designer in me cringes when I hear "light weight composites". But then I also want to trust that they did plenty of FEA analysis and durability testing - especially on the mount, which they claim to be 29% lighter (if I read it right). We all know what the water up here can do to heavier engine mounts and cowlings.
Don't get me wrong - I hope it works out great. That's the kind of innovation the industry needs to push 4-stroke technology. Especially after Mercury screwed the pooch with the Verado.
hello...what part of Yamaha aren't you folks getting, Yamaha is spelled Japanese! Unfortunately the American market has been hit so bad that the only one left is a Merc and I'm not sure what models of theirs are manufactured overseas. have you driven a new F150 yet? do yourself a big favor and test drive today! no need to buy foreign with what Ford and GM are putting out !
nice name change Charlie ;D
Im Pretty sure Ford is the biggest importer of foriegn parts of ALL the auto makers. >:(
I drive a Ford F350. I plan on buying a Chevy/GM truck when I can manage the next one.
Merc has never done me wrong.
If it aint black, throw it back!
ill keep my mercs...i dont need no lawlmaha or evinrofl ;)
this what i would call a game changer. can't use them in FLW, not sure about KLBA. took these last weekend in Fla.
My last Mercury 'threw' itself back unfortunately... but I've told that story before. They do seem to have things together pretty good now which is good for everyone. Competition is important. And I don't want anyone I know to have a bad product.
I buy American as much as I can including making sure I know when I'm really buying American verses thinking I'm buying American. Sometimes, I buy things that are sold by Americans, so they can have jobs, though some of the product is not American. As we all do. Every day.
I won't get into the American vs Foriegn debate...I am employed by Ford so obviously I am bias in that respect...
People are kidding themselves if they don't want to believe that 4 strokes will dominate the outboard market in the next decade....I remember in the early part of this decade making statements along the lines of "Four strokes will never be competitive in MX"..Well guess what I couldn't have been more wrong...Who was the first company to put a truly competitive Four stroke MX bike on the track and into production...Yamaha....13,000 RPM Fourstroke motors are common place on the MX track...
The only thing that concerns me is cost of maintenance and durability of the valve train...I went from 350 dollar motor rebuilds to costs pushing in the thousands with my last CRF 450..
The Four strokes will be fast and competitive you can take that to the bank....The costs associated with the Valve train is the only thing that should be a real concern..
Lets hope for great toughness and reliability. I have had zero problems with Yamaha HPDI Vmax since I got it 5 years ago. That's the turn the key reliability I truly needed after my previous motors.
Luckily, they all seem to be getting a lot better the past few seasons.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hgctbr.jpg)
Sounds like Yamaha has been doing some pretty extensive testing with Bass Cat
Here is a video of a holeshot with the new motor...Turn on your sound..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9LA03i3nWc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9LA03i3nWc)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/5aritt.jpg)
If Ford Motor came out with an Ecoboost outboard for my Ranger, I'd buy one!
"The new outboards not only offer better performance, they deliver that performance with the same clean, quiet smooth demeanor four-strokes are famous for and bass enthusiast, until now, only dreamed about. Whether at idle, part throttle or wide open throttle, the VMAX SHO is smoother and quieter than the VMAX Series 2. Because it's a four stroke, there is minimal smoke or odor."
What fun is that? I want my outboard loud & rude, with a lumpy idle like a big block Chevelle.
Hey, wait a minute; mine already does. 8)
Considering the foreign vs. U.S. debate: It's a "world" market out there today, with everyone using others parts. But in the end, where does the money end up, here or Japan?
I'm sure some of the money stays here, keeping Americans in jobs, and some ends up in Japan. Just like with so many other products we all use every day.
I do understand the desire for the 'look at me' type of motor!! ;D But I'm also a conservationist so I'm thinking, get the new motor, save some money on gas and oil, pollute a little less... and just install some boom boxes playing a recording of a top fuel dragster whenever you take off ;D (but not first thing in the morning... it irritates the riparians :o)
any idea how much do they cost compared to this years motors.
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/bassmaster/news/story?page=bass_news_yamahaSHO_20091119
There is a link for it. 67,000 paired up with a skeeter
i must admit that engine is sick :o
Quote from: t-bone on November 19, 2009, 08:25:44 AM
If Ford Motor came out with an Ecoboost outboard for my Ranger, I'd buy one!
I drove an Ecoboost motor in a Taurus SHO the other day....Awesome car for sure...
Quote from: dartag on November 19, 2009, 03:16:20 PM
any idea how much do they cost compared to this years motors.
Bass Cat claims about 1500 dollars more than a Merc 250XS...rigged on a Cougar..