so i broke my jig rod, and decided to transfer my 7'6'' crucial to my jig rod, and now i need a casting rod for texas rigging what do you think i should get
What does you budget look like for this new rod?
around 150.00 or so
Keeping in mind that everyone has their own opinion and ideas about what a good t-rig rod would be.
You could have thedude build you one custom. He can elaborate on this.
I would consider at a Powell. I bought a Powell 7'3" MH from Al & Bob's last year and like it. You can get one for $170. I would look at another Crucial or a E21 Carrot Stix might be a good choice in your price range.
Cy
I am gonna agree with Cy. A Powell, a Crucial, or a St Croix Avid. I own all 3 and they are all comparible in quality, feel, and price. All powells have split grips ( that is important to some people), A few of the Crucials have them but i think just on the drop shot rods, and i dont think any of the avids have splits unless you get one custom made.
I would get with thedude first tho. He can build you a rod to your exact specifications which is a huge plus.
And he has a cool company name. Pale Horse!
McCarter himself :-\'
-i know thedude,ive been thinking about having him build me one, and i dont think if i ordered a rod now if it would get done by tournement season. ill talk to him to see my options though
McCarter- my budget is about 150.00 for this rod
If you dont go with the dude I could set you up with a guy for a new MBR843 or MBR844 IMX for about $200 shipped or the GLX for about the price of the retail IMX if you wanted to go a little higher.
I personally will only use G Loomis and thats what I would recammend if you can aford the extra $$. There so sensitive its almost like cheating. ;D If not the other recamendations would be the way to go.
Hey partner... you KNOW I can get you another Crucial if you want to spend that kind of money. Personally, and knowing more about you than ANYONE on this site... I'd go with something a touch cheaper in cost and use the rest of the money for tourney entry fees and gas money for your partners truck and boat. :D That Crucial you have would make a pretty good texas/shakey head rod... it's nice and long to take up the slack. Like I said I can get you that Clarus for a LOT less than $150 and I think it would make a pretty good jig rod.
an avid (sc3) is probably doable in the 150 range. I know the blanks they use for castaway/airrus rods are similar in price point as well. I can turn a rod in about 2-3 weeks, unfortunatley its waiting on parts has been holding me up a lot this winter. a lot of stuff keeps getting backordered. Seems like its been mostly spinning guides that i keep waiting on though. if you are interested i will be ordering blanks in a few weeks. always try to order a few at a time since shipping is usually 25$ regardless of 1 blank or 10. If you need one before memorial day, that is doable at this point.
I'd pony up the extra 50$ and get a cumara, everytime i pick one of those up i think i should buy one ;D
I can get Cumara's too Monzo... just think about it. But I think you'd be just as happy with another Crucial.
I absolutely love my Cumara, it's a great rod! I was not recommending that due to his budgetary constraints.
i heard that cumara's were a great rod but i also heard(from waterfoul) that they were very fragile, and i guess im kinda rough on gear
Quote from: play for keeps on March 31, 2009, 09:01:50 PM
i heard that cumara's were a great rod but i also heard(from waterfoul) that they were very fragile, and i guess im kinda rough on gear
What the hell are you listening to him for? Most days he couldn't find his behind with both hands! ;D
Seriously, I haven't found the Cumara to be fragile. I try not to step on it or put my knee, like waterfouls other buddy, but I fished with it all last year and it held up well.
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I bought a Grandt rod last year after talking to DJK, Mad Wags, and then the owner. I have not only been impressed with the way I was treated by all involved, the warranty is top notch and I really like the rod too. My next new rod will likely come from them.
I know there are many good rods out there which have already been mentioned. Comes down to personal opinion and confidence (like most things with fishing). Go with a reputable brand in the size/action/feel you need, refered by someone you trust, make sure it has a good warranty and you should be fine.
I don't care for all the what I'll call "fluff" wrappings on the Grandt rods. Just not my bag I guess.
And Cy... you don't know what you're talking about.... the Cumara is kinda fragile compared to many other rods out there (you thought I was gonna mention the two handed comment you made... didn't you!! LOL!!!)
any high-modulus rod will be fragile to a certain extent... just the nature of the beast. To achieve the super light weight blanks, they use higher-modulus graphite which is more brittle than the lower stuff, then they remove all or most of the fiberglass in the internal scrim. Most all rods have some fiberglass in them, the more they have, the more abuse they can take.
justin if you were to make a rod around 150.00 would you use the st.croix or the arrius blank. i have a arrius ultra xl and i like the sensitivity of that rod. and the only st.crox ive used was a triumph, so i dont know about the avid
on a 150$ rod you're looking at blank price of probably around 60-75$. For that money you can probably get a SCIII (avid series) on the high end - which are good blanks, typically come in pretty light when compared to blanks in the same price range. Batson/Rainshadow RX7 blanks are a little cheaper, and run a little more on the heavy side (about a 1/2 oz), but make a great stick also.
The castaway blanks come in cheaper - 50-60 bucks - and look like they aren't too heavy. Factory specs show 2-2.5 oz blank weight for mag-bass tapers in the 7 to 7 6" range - which is pretty much the same as the SCIII blanks. I've not used these blanks so i can't say much about them other than whats printed. They do have a good reputation and i have dealt with the owner in the past, so I wouldn't be shy about trying one.
i have some rainshadows here at the house - specifically 2 rods i'm building for myself - a 6'6" M/fast and a 7'0" M/fast that would both be good starting points for t-rig rods. have mike bring you up sometime and you can take a look if you want.
Maybe when you get my rod done I'll bring Martin up with me to pick it up.
Another brand is B&R Outlaw great sesitvity and guarantee. They sell for $130 and lifetime warranty for $50 replacement no ? asked. Call Bill Ferris at 616 902 2888 if interested. I've had gloomis and several rods but I now like these the best
Dick Courser
OK, y'all are missing a real sleeper.
Rogue MB 764, blank $105. With a split grip, fuji ECM seat, no foregrip, and revolve the guides. Alconite single foot fly's, two 8's twelve inches apart with a 6 between to get under the blank, then 6's all the way up. Kistler style hook keeper 3 inches up from the seat.
Mine done like this weighs in at 5.3 oz. With a Scorpion 1001 on top, the total rig comes in at 13 oz. Balance point is 2.5 inches in front of the seat. The sensitivity is awesome, and I've never felt underpowered in anything but the heaviest cover. I mainly use it for texas rigs & light to medium jigs. It's got enough back bone for a good eye cross, but enough flex that fish stay buttoned.
I've done 5 rods on Rogue blanks, and I'm very impressed. In fact, I've got to order a BB 796 for swimbaits soon.
Dude should be able to roll that for pretty near the $150 mark; trust me, you will not be disapointed. 8)
LB - i'm actually using a double foot 6, single 5, single 4 and then single 3s for my spiral wraps now. Micro guides are the bomb! Light and cheap. i just setup a pitching rod and testing it out - i can't tell any performance degradation with the tiny guides.
What are you using for your tip tops? I haven't seen or read much real info on the micros; but I've heard you need to split the top to get them on most bass blanks.
I'm all for as light as possible, especially removing forward weight. The only time I think I might like to stay a little larger (6) is to throw braid with a fluoro leader. Need a little room for that knot.
I'm interested in hearing more on your use of the micros.
batson makes micro tips on up to a 5.5 tube which covers a pretty good range of blanks. Once you get into heavier blanks with thicker tips, i use a standard alconite tip with a 6 ring (smallest ring to fit the tube) - i have no doubts the micros will hold up as good as a 6 fly guide, but i'm more comfortable with an in-tact tip in heavy-duty scenarios.
i'm a bit leary on the knot issue and the micros also - but even the sz 3s look like they would pass a knot ok on smaller diameter lines (like 12 and under).
can't beat the price and weight... i had a bag of 72 size 3s and i bet it didn't weigh 1/16th of an oz
i ran a test this morning, and the size 3s will have issues passing a uni-to-uni knot between two lines of 15lb mono. Thats a pretty big knot however. I typically either fish full braid or full mono on my casting gear... on some of my spinning gear i do use light braid with 6 or 8lb floro leaders.. i'm going to test those out tonight, i think they will pass fine though.
Contact me this weekend. I am in Rhode Island working the last show of the year. This is a salt water show. If you order your rod this weekend during the show it will cost you $99.00 - $109.00
Send me a message with a daytime contact for Saturday or Sunday and I will call you.
We have been doing this 26 years, make rods for 68 companies and take a World Class display on the road with the Largest IN STOCK selection in the World. We can and do sell alot of rods with custom features and we know how to do these. But if a person thinks that we cant or don't make rods with simple wraps they are just dodging the facts. Grandt has done this as a full time successful business for 26 years.
shame on me for not remember to mention Grandt as another suggestion. They are still offering show prices which is huge, and they are a board sponsor. I would talk to Wags before making any final decisions Monzo. They have a lot to offer and you can get a discount if you hurry!
McCarter himself :-\'
Waterfoul is always fully observant... maybe he's actually attracted to the fancy wraps and doesn't know it? Grandt makes plain wraps and custom wraps both. It all depends on what the customer wants. They have a large variety in style, look, action and types of fishing rods.
All I will keep asking is that if you enjoy this web site, please always remember to consider the companies that make this site possible. With Grandt and help from MadWags and others, you can save quite a bit of money and keep that price sometimes if you buy at show prices. The prices I mentioned are standard prices if you buy outside of their shows. I truly appreciate that they are willing to extend that pricing to members during these shows. Save $40 to $60 per rod! I have 4 now and they are excellent rods.
I know we bass anglers are all pretty particular about our brands, but I also know we can suddenly and completely shift our allegiance to a new company brand after a long time of saying I only use 'brand x.' See it happen all the time. So I know we have it in us to consider any brand that makes a great quality product at a good price. Thank you.
that is a great deal from Grandt and definitely worth a looksee ;)
Now I didn't say Grandt didn't make a good rod... it's just that all the ones I've looked at at the shows had too much wrap on them for me. I'm sure their rods are top notch, especially for the money they ask for them (they offer a good deal to members of this website!). But since I started selling rods that I really like I've been buying most of my rods the last two years from myself (employee discounts are such wonderful things!). I Didn't mean anything bad by my earlier comment.
Thedude is building me a rod that I won during the COTM season or I would probably have replaced the shakey head rod I lost overboard with one from my store. That and I like giving business to local guys/businesses and it doesn't get a lot more local than Thedude!!
To me... 'fluff' on a fishing rod would be something like those fuzzy dice you see hanging from rear view mirrors, etc. :D
I do agree that I would not expect to see fuzzy dice hanging from your rear view mirror. ;D
Grandt does have quite a few rods that don't have the extra fancy wrap. I saw them. Some people do like those decorative wraps though. When I built rods way, way back, we were taught how to do some tricky wraps because some people do really like them and pay extra. Unfortunately, I'm not very artistic.
And please don't forget that you only have to buy the American made Grandt Rod one time, as it has an UNCONDITIONAL LIFETIME WARRANTY. This means if it is broken in any way accidental or otherwise it is covered. It will only cost you $25.00 for the shipping and handling charge of the rod returned to you FedEx insured in a tube. I always save the tubes as they come in handy when I have to send in a rod. I have personally used the warranty 6 times and figure I have saved around $1,200.00 if I was to replace the rods. Also since we are the manufacturer, if you desire to have a rod built your way we can do this, but encourage you to try our rods they way they are as they are built to last and endure the rigors of tournament fishing. OUr rods are used by many well known anglers in all species.
Thank you for considering Grandt Rods. I look forward to personally serving your needs. I you would like me to come to one of your club meetings and demonstrate some rods. let me know.
I cannot believe that no one has mentioned the Kistler Magnesium Series which is a great rod and a bargain in the $150 range. For TX riggin' I use the Kistler Mag. TX in 6'9" MH or for a bit heavier application the 7' Heavy is a sweet rod.
Check them out at Kistlerrods.com