I am about to buy a new cranking battery for my boat. I have been doing some research. I have owned Delco Voyager and the Complete Battery Source Battery. The Voyager was a dry cell maintenance free. Got 4 good years out of that battery. The Complete Battery Source battery was nothing but hassle. I replaced it three times in the last 2 years. It is a wet cell and has to be replenished with distilled water every so often.
I have been looking at the Exide Nautilus Battery. Optima is out of my price range although I don't think there is one better. I hear that one that Cabela's sells is every bit as good. I am trying to stay under $100. I also do realize you get what you pay for. I hope to get three to four good years out of this next one.
Aside from cranking the engine, this battery will run all my accessories. That means ship to shore radio, fishfinders, GPS, bilge pump, aerators, etc.
My questions are:
What do you own?
Are you satisfied?
Would you buy it again?
Any other input would be appreciated including opinions and preferences. All input is helpful. Thanks.
BD ;D
I running an Everstart from Wal Mart for my starting battery. I was out of town, fishing a tournament and needed a battery. The Wal Mart was the first place I saw. I went with a group 24 and changed the battery tray to fit it. I have been very happy with that battery over all and it was like $70 or $80 bucks. I put my battery charger on it a couple times a year to keep it topped off.
Cy
Mine is shot too. I thought about getting another Cabelas AGM to match the TM batteries, but money is too tight right now. Those were $190 each but are great batteries if your budget opens up BigDog.
Thanks for the tip Cy, maybe I will try one of those.
I"ve been using the Everstart batteries for both TM and Cranking. I"ve been happy with both.
Like Cy, I top off my cranking battery every once in awhile with a charge. Other than that, they are maintenance free.
I just replaced both Everstarts in my boat, they lasted 4 years. $150.00 for both, never had a problem with them.
I have to replace both of the deep cycle trolling motor batteries this spring. I have been doing my homework on batteries all winter. I would love to go gel or AGM but the cost is so high. I'm going to check CostCo and a couple of Auto Parts stores for prices before I make a decision. I may end up running EverStart batteries. I think they are fine batteries I just don't like spending my money at Wal Mart.
Cy
I replaced all 3 batteries in my boat last spring with 2 Everstart series 29 TM batteries and 1 Everstart series 31 cranking battery and couldn't be happier with their performance. I don't have the receipt in front of me but I am 99% sure I paid just under $200.00 for all three, on sale. I would buy them again in a heartbeat.
Willie
The thing with Everstart is knowing who actually made the battery. In the past, they have changed one year to the next and the battery you buy this year isn't the same as the one you bought last year. Also in the past, different models were made by different companies. I bring this up every so often because I hear from anglers and boaters who say they aren't getting the same battery this time that they got last time. The reason why usually is the company changed to a different maker or requested a change in manufacturing to save money.
That being said, some of the Everstart batteries have been made by East Penn, makers of Deka Batteries (http://www.dekabatteries.com/), the batteries I've been using for years because they are powerful, dependable and made in the USA. I'd have to check to see if East Penn is still making any of the Everstarts.
I prefer to buy brands that are actually made by the company. I know for sure what I'm getting. For quite a few years now, that's been Deka. Top quality battery that has never failed me at the worst time (or any time). They cost a little more, but the quality and the lasting time make it a simple, clear decision for me. I like to save money too, but fishing is too important to me to take chances I don't need to take.
Deka makes all the types of batteries for boating. I use 31 wet flooded cell Marine Master batteries which work great for my setup. I haven't had to spend hardly any time with maintenance. Got 4 years out of the last set. NEVER ran out of juice during the day no matter how long I fished in wind and current of the Great Lakes!! VERY important to me.
Here's a SE Michigan distributor if you want to call someone and ask questions:
Wonch Battery
26332 Lawrence Street
Center Line, MI 48015
Phone: 586-758-5400
Fax: 586-758-5956
I run 2 different kinds. But i think that im trading my Everstarts that I use for my trolling motor over to Deka. I run a Deka cranking battery. Its great. I top it off every once in awhile. I just did a ton of maintence that was way over due today. Everythings working in tip top shape.-skeeterman-
I know thedude bought some private label Deka made deep cycle batteries last year. I need to find out where he got and check into it. If I remember right it was near downtown GR and he paid less than $100 a piece for them.
I am running two wet cell Complete Battery Source Batteries for my trolling motor. I am going on my third season with them and I am very happy with them. As I said in my original post the cranking battery has been the issue. I want a maintenance free because the one I had previously to the one I got now was a Delco Voyager. It was an outstanding battery. The problem is I have not been able to find another. I checked Murray's Auto where I bought the first one. They now carry the Exide Nautilus. I started looking into this battery. I have never known anyone who has owned one.
No question gel would be the way to go but that is some big bucks.....$$$$$ :o Within a budget like under a $100 I would look at an Everstart if I could purchase one from someplace other than Walmart. I am on the east side of the state in the Detroit Area so a retailer around here..........other than Walmart......I would be interested in contacting.
Got Fish?? who lives down the street from me has a Sears Die Hard Deep Cycle Marine Cranking Battery in his boat. He is very happy. I was looking at the Die Hard too. But it is over $100. When he bought his three years ago he said he paid about $89. Inflation!!! Still the Die Hard isn't that much over $100 and I haven't seen them go on sale yet. I have been checking the flyer.
The Nautilus from Exide has some interesting qualities. From what I have read the Exide has got the market in anti-vibration technology which they claim. I haven't heard any of you guys talk about the Nautilus which leads me to believe that no one on the board has had one. Maybe I should buy one just to try it and then let you guys know what I think. I can get one from Murray's and it is under $100. We still have a couple of weeks because it is still winter however I want to have one by Easter because I will be fishing by Easter come heck or high water which I hope it is the later..........high water.............I like high water.........get into the Hot Pond easier. 8) Any way back to Marine Cranking Batteries.
Thanks DK for the name of that distributor in Center Line. I will check him out. He is close to work. I'll give him a call and check to see if he still carries Everstart. In a global market is there anyone who is making their own product any more. An Everstart from East Penn would be fine. Made in the USA as you said and the name is associated with quality product. Lots of good product out there. It is all about $$$$$$$ and how much we can keep in our pockets. Thanks fellas!!!! 8)
BD ;D
I also need a new cranking battery this year.
I have run Delco Voyagers in the past - might go that route again. Great batteries. BigDog, if you need a Voyager, you can go to any Chevy dealer and get them from the parts counter. They won't have them in stock, but they will bring you a fresh one from the distribution center within a couple of days.
FYI - Mercury recently released a list of "reccomended" batteries for use with the big block DI engines:
(Testing and information courtesy of Mercury Marine Research & Development)
-Odyssey PC1500, PC1700, PC2150 and PC2250.
-Optima Group 31
-West Marine Sea Volt Group 27 AGM.
-Trolling Thunder TT1175 and TT1370.
-Excide Megacycle (Mercury Brand) MC-31 and XMC-31.
-Sears Die Hard Platinum 34M and 31M.
-Deka Sea Mate 8A27M and 8A31DTM.
I am thinking about the Die Hard Platinum 31M - same battery as the odyessy, but less $$. 1150 CCA & 205 Min reserve. $249
Seth
I think you should all buy West Marine batteries. :D Which by the way are East Penn batteries. And the last time I checked JCI was making the Everstarts for Wally world.
And we all know who makes Optima.
Seems like a lot of the 'store' brand batteries are doing more with JCI and East Penn now. I think that is a good sign they want to put out a more dependable product.
Could be true, but there is nothing wrong with an East Penn battery either. The West batteries seem to be holding up as well as anyones these days.
I went to A1 electric on the corner of Turner and Ann street. If you take the southbound 131 exit for ann street you drive right by it. Guy charged was asking 90ish a pop for a 31 DCM - He made me a deal on them for 85 each cuz i got 2.
the brand was Transcontinental which is a shop-brand from east penn (deka). They work great, i've got a 36v system now and had to toss an everstart in there for the short term, but they run forever w/ my 101 terrova.
A1 might have changed hands since i bought them 2 years ago, but i dropped some old batteries off there this summer and they still had some trans on the shelf.
D&R has deka 31s for 109$ also.
That's a very good price for a quality 31 battery.
Quote from: Waterfoul on March 10, 2009, 08:08:36 PM
Could be true, but there is nothing wrong with an East Penn battery either. The West batteries seem to be holding up as well as anyones these days.
You talking to me? I think that is what I was saying...? Obviously, since I only use Deka batteries made by East Penn, I'd say I like the company's products. In my boat. In my truck. In my lawn tractor... :)
I was just saying that it is good to see store brands sticking to the quality battery companies more often.
I've been using Crown Batteries for the past 7-8 years. They're made right here in Ohio. Fremont, OH I believe? I use the 31's for my trolling motor and the biggest crank battery they make (can't remember the model). I believe they run right around $100-109 and I usually keep them 3 years.
I'm surprised to see so many positive remarks about Everstarts. Those things pretty much suck in my book! LOL! Everyone I know that's had them has had at least one go bad in the first year, sometimes two!
I've had various levels of success with them in the distant past, but it was usually related to who was making them at the time. For the past 8 or 9 years, I've stuck with Deka and no problems anymore. Consistent quality.
Well I broke down and bought an Exide Nautilus for my cranking battery. I have never tried one so this will be a first. I will let the forum know what I think in a few months. It is a maintenance free battery. My trolling motor batteries are from Complete Battery Source and they are wet cells. They have held up as I enter my third year of use with these.
BD ;D
3 deka tm batteries and 1 decka dual purpose battery in my boat. That is all I buy.
is there a Deka dealer on the east side?? might need 2 new 31 TM batteries.
NAPA deals with Deka. Right around 69 bucks or less.
Quote from: dartag on March 23, 2009, 07:48:05 PM
is there a Deka dealer on the east side?? might need 2 new 31 TM batteries.
Closest East Penn Deka distributor. Give them a call and they should be able to tell you where to get batteries if not directly from them.
Wonch Battery
26332 Lawrence Street
Center Line, MI 48015
Phone: 586-758-5400
Fax: 586-758-5956
I have sold a LOT of Deka Batteries where I work at in Rockford. (Corner of Wabsis Lake Rd, and M-57) And I have NOT one battery come back or anyone come back saying one bad thing about the battery infact it has been all good. I have a few friend that have Minn Kota 101 36V Fortrex. And they Deka Gel Matte and they use them ALL day in the wind and the batteries do not die. In fact they still were at 1/2 at the end of the day. But I recommend everyone to have a Stay-N-Charge on there boat.
DieHard, Duralast, Interstate, ProStart, Everstart and Optima are all JCI brands. For the guys that have had problems with the Everstarts I would recommend trying them now, if you plug your on-board charger in after every outing they will last at minimum 3 years, I got 5 years out of my 2 trolling and am going on 7th year with my cranking - that is without ever adding any water or messing with them. They are hands down the best overall value today, from price to availabilty to reliability to local presence - JCI is the only major manufacturer of batteries that employees a substantial amount of Michigan residents. Johnson Controls has over 9 different locations in Holland and just announced they will be adding another 500+ jobs there with their new facility. Even if the batteries are made in Wisconsin buying a JCI brand supports you local economy because JCI has tons of local employees.
I don't personally know one person that has had an issue with an Everstart in the recent past (but I am sure I will after this post ;) ;) so its fair to say that the days of Everstart being known as a low quality Walmart product are over.
So for anyone having a bad experience with an Everstart take one for team-wooden shoe and try them now because they are much improved, and if you ever plan on spending more than $100 don't be dutch and upgrade to the most advanced spiral cell technology battery on the market and get an Optima.
Everstart batteries are sold by Complete Battery Source as their own brand. Those are the wet cells I have. Good battery. Very pleased with their performance. Going on my 4th year with them. I may or may not have to replace them. They are about $90 a piece from them.
BD ;D
surprised no one said anything about the trojan batterys. lot of guys that fish on st clair from our area like these for their big deep v models. some of the tin boats really are hard to control in the wind and these batterys are the only ones that'll last the whole day
karol
West Marine
My Deka batteries last longer than a whole day of fishing Lake St. Clair. Since I switched about 7 years ago, I have not had one single bad battery and always finish the day with plenty of juice to keep fishing at the end of the day exactly how I started the day. Very important for fishing the open, windy Great Lakes.
Quote from: MadWags on January 30, 2010, 09:53:09 PM
West Marine
Deka supplies west marine's batteries.
Deka simply puts west marine stickers on deka batteries before their shipped to the stores, surprised the heck out of me when I was at the deka distribution wharehouse, there's a couple other stores deka swaps the stickers on but memory slips me right now but I think bPS was one of them.
The caveat I always have about buying store brand is simple - they can change from year to year (and have in the past). If you can find out for sure one of the top companies is making that year's batteries - great. But before you buy them again two years from now, see if you can find who they are getting them from that year. Sometimes, in trying to save money, the large chains may try batteries that don't have the same quality as they did previously.
I have to say that for a while now, it seems like many of the major chains are sticking with the better battery manufacturers.
Batteries are like so much in our industry - many, many decals on the packages, but only a small number of companies making all of them. It's that way with rods, rod components, reels, line, tube lures and more.
An example is rod guides - many anglers seem to think Fuji makes great rod guides, yet Fuji doesn't make a single rod guide according to what industry insiders tell me. They get their parts from the same company many other large rod makers buy their parts from. They just market them under the Fuji brand. Now, it probably isn't quite that simple and may change year to year, but I can't tell you how many times someone has told me they "like brand X and don't like brand Y" when I know that brand X and brand Y actually come out of the same production line from the same factory. I have always preferred to try to find out who is making the things I buy and also knowing when it changes in case that knowledge affects my buying decision. It helps to deal with companies you can trust of course.
I like and trust Deka because I know who makes them, where they are made (Pennsylvania) and the people who I buy from are no nonsense, honest people who have proven themselves to be knowledgeable. And as you'd expect from a product from that environment, I have excellent performance from their batteries!
My fishing means too much to me to roll the dice on...
I have a brand new one i won at a top bass event last august, i can sell you 50 bucks its yours!!!! 8)
If you mean a Deka battery, I'm all set. I have 3 in the boat and should get 3 or 4 more years out of them. Thanks.
NP DJK have a good one ;D