explain to me again why the classic is being held this year on a lake i can drive to within 3hours any time i want? what was wrong with kentucky/barkley? gave a guy something to look forward to, and start the tournament season a month earlier. i'm already hearing rumors that next years will be on the ohio river, and the only good thing about that is you don't have to worry about culling, cause you're not going to get a llimit anyway.
I heard the OHIO river was the site to. I looked up the standings from the BFL's down there wow thats impresive fishing. I am sure that they are going there for the anglers! Man if I am going to fish all year to make a classic I sure don't want to go to a place that Mark Zona was quoted as saying has 4 Bass in the hole system.
Here is the top 50 from a BFL last year.
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Boater Results | Co-Angler Results
Pl. First Name | Last Name City / State Day 1 Winnings
Fish lbs-oz
1 DAVE FYFFE HEATH, OH 5 8-05 $4,119
2 GARY BECKER SAINT MARYS, OH 5 8-04 $2,059
3 JASON ELROD MIAMISBURG, OH 5 7-12 $1,374
4 DENNIS AKERS GARRISON, KY 3 7-08 $961
5 LARRY DAVIS JR XENIA, OH 5 7-07 $824
6 JEFF MELSOP EAST LIBERTY, OH 5 7-06 $755
7 STUART EVERSOLE MIDDLETOWN, OH 5 7-01 $686
8 CHRISTIAN ROMANS CARROLLTON, KY 5 6-15 $618
9 JAMES RICHARDSON JR CINCINNATI, OH 4 6-12 $549
10 DAVID CALEBAUGH PARKERSBURG, WV 5 6-08 $480
11 SCOTT HALE WHEELERSBURG, OH 4 6-05 $432
12 ERNIE HEDRICK NORTH BEND, OH 2 6-04 $398
13 ROBERT PARKER MILTON, KY 2 6-03 $384
14 STEVE FLOYD LEESBURG, OH 5 6-01 $353
14 TIM HENNEMANN FLORENCE, KY 5 6-01 $353
16 MICHAEL MANOR SIDNEY, OH 4 5-14 $329
17 MIKE SPICER BELLBROOK, OH 5 5-13 $316
18 JOHN CARTER FELICITY, OH 3 5-12 $302
19 DICK SHAFFER ROCKFORD, OH 5 5-07 $288
20 B J BAXTER DELPHOS, OH 4 5-06 $275
21 MARK HURST TROY, OH 5 5-03 $268
22 JAMES HAILSTONES CINCINNATI, OH 4 5-02 $261
23 BRET REID PIQUA, OH 4 5-01
23 JOHN VIOX HEBRON, KY 3 5-01
25 MICHAEL ABPLANALP CLEVES, OH 4 4-14
26 ROY GENTRY CINCINNATI, OH 2 4-13
27 DAN FRY MARYSVILLE, OH 4 4-12
27 EDDIE HICKS CENTERVILLE, OH 3 4-12
29 JASON NETHERLAND MANSFIELD, OH 2 4-11
30 LARRY ANDERSON HILLSBORO, OH 4 4-09
30 DAVID WARD NEW PLYMOUTH, OH 4 4-09
32 GARY GINTER MAPLEWOOD, OH 4 4-07
33 GARY DEES HAMILTON, OH 4 4-05
33 DAVID SPIVEY HAMILTON, OH 3 4-05
35 KENNY MITCHELL FRANKLIN, OH 4 4-04
35 TERRY SQUIRE MEDINA, OH 3 4-04
37 DON ROBERTS BELLVILLE, OH 4 4-03
38 JEFF FARRAR ALEXANDRIA, KY 3 4-02
38 ROBERT OTTO DAYTON, OH 3 4-02
38 ED SHANNON MILFORD, OH 3 4-02
41 JARED RHODE PORT CLINTON, OH 4 4-01
41 KEVIN SPEARS NEW BOSTON, OH 3 4-01
43 HARVEY SNOWDEN WEST CHESTER, OH 2 4-00
44 JAMES VITARO WOOSTER, OH 3 3-15
45 JIM ASHER TIPP CITY, OH 3 3-13
45 STACEY EDWARDS MILTON, KY 1 3-13
47 BILL EVANS FRIENDSHIP, OH 3 3-12
48 CRAIG AMBOS BOTKINS, OH 3 3-11
48 MELVIN MCNEAL CIRCLEVILLE, OH 3 3-11
50 DONALD SIBLEY STRASBURG, OH 3 3-08
PS glad I am fishing something else!!!!!!!!
There are always to ways to look at these types of things. You can look at it as people already are saying how bad it is and so on, or you can accept the challenge the fishery brings step up your game and give it your best shot. Don't get me wrong I love to see places where there are lots of fish and big fish. But I really enjoy seeing fisherman challenged with tough bodies of water it really shows off the talents of the best fisherman. That is why I used to love the Bass Masters Classic in the dog days of summer not this spring time stuff where the fish are seemingly jumping in the boat. Aren't classics supposed to be the best fisherman? If so lets see them put those best fishermans skills to the test NBAA is no different.
Quote from: fish hound on March 06, 2007, 07:31:04 PM
explain to me again why the classic is being held this year on a lake i can drive to within 3hours any time i want? what was wrong with kentucky/barkley? gave a guy something to look forward to, and start the tournament season a month earlier. i'm already hearing rumors that next years will be on the ohio river, and the only good thing about that is you don't have to worry about culling, cause you're not going to get a llimit anyway.
Thats fine when you are talking about The bassmaster classic but 80% of the guys that are going to go to this tournament don't have a shot of winning it, For most guys that went to kenntucky it was a vacation, it was a good time of year to catch fish and have the chanse to get catch a fish of a life time. I know 3 guys that caught the biggest fish they ever caght in kenn durring practice. This classic is not just a chance to win a boat for most guys it is a excusse to go and fish a great body of water with out the old lady nagging them about it. I think NBAA is thinking about there wallet not the guys that have made them what they are.
That is true but the Ohio River would be a vacation too. I just hope everyone dosn't get all caught up in the local talk and such and get out there and make there own conclusion on it. You can still have fun with your friends withouth the wife or girlfriend. It is all what you make out of it.
THE 2008 NBAA CLASSIC WILL NOT I REPEAT, NOT BE ON THE OHIO RIVER. I THINK SOME MORON STARTED THAT RUMOR. ENOUGH SAID ON THAT!!
Are you serious! I just ordered all the maps and everything.
Now that was funny.
where will this seasons classic be? or this what we are talking about here ???
This years classic is at Houghton Lake.
Next years classic has not been announced yet, so no matter what you hear it is all speculation. Now this doesnt mean that it will or will not be on the ohio river we ALL will have to wait for the official announcement.
Even if it is on the Ohio river how do we know exactly where it is being held without an official announcemnet.
Quote from: dhuff on March 07, 2007, 04:02:35 PM
Are you serious! I just ordered all the maps and everything.
The Ohio river is really big, did you get the maps for the entire waterway? Thats alot of maps. LOL ;D
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This years classic is at Houghton Lake.
Next years classic has not been announced yet, so no matter what you hear it is all speculation. Now this doesnt mean that it will or will not be on the ohio river we ALL will have to wait for the official announcement.
Even if it is on the Ohio river how do we know exactly where it is being held without an official announcemnet.
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what a company man!! why do't they announce the location before the start of the tournament season?? I know a lot of people who would have fished other tournaments last year if they had known the classic would be someplace they could fish anytime, within a couple hour drive (houghton).
ya we goin up that to thats stupid holton lakes :-[ :-[ :-[
first we go down to kentuckie lakes an barklie an was fun an now up to holton lakes ??? ??? ???
i looks ovur thats ohio river stuff that jason puts thar ;) ;) ;)
big weeights cume frum that :o :o :o
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LGMOUTH, Yes I did buy maps for the entire river just incase.... you know...LOL. Anyways in all seriousness everyone should try and have fun. I think NBAA is in a lose lose situation when it comes to picking the classic location. If it is out of state or somewhere where you have to drive more than 3-4 hours alot of people complain about gas prices and such. If it is at Houghton lake then people complain that it is too close. I guess you can not please everyone. Regardless where they have it it will be a fun time with great prizes and NO ENTRY FEE so I am going to have fun no-matter what win or lose. However, LGMOUTH can you tell them my vote for next years classic is the OHIO RIVER since I already bought quite a few maps..!!! lol
The Ohio river sounds great I heard it has four bass in it heck that is alot for a place that orginates from ohio! Have you ever fished a lake in Ohio take Buckeye lake for example 2 yrs ago there was a tournament that it took .7 lbs to cash a check
I herd a new rumor today. The classic is going to be on Lake Guntersville. I guess know one will know were it is going to be till they tell every one in july.
Now why would they want to go down to Guntersville??? I heard they catch some fish there and some big ones. I vot to keep it on the Ohio River!
I am putting in my vote for FLORIDA....any lake will do....lol
AND yes, no matter where it is held...people are gonna complain....get over it and just enjoy.
They normally announce the next site at the first event, but with the classic being after some have already started, we may just hear about it at the classic.
To the person who said if it was announced earlier last year some people might not have fished it. It was announced in early May. You had all season to fish with someone else's trail. Why did ya stay with NBAA?
See right there is the point of ya can't please everyone.
Me, I will enjoy myself like I did the first time it was on that lake. Didn't catch a thing, but had fun and met a lot of people. Not to bad since that was my first year with NBAA.
as a former hoosier...for god sakes don't have a classic in INDIANA!
and if you have to at least do it on Monroe or Patoka...both are plenty big and can be just as challenging but at least you have a shot at catching a fish...maybe even 2!!!
i would love the chance to fish down south for a day or 2 for the classic...guntersville sounds nice... pickwick maybe? marion & Moultrie? ....hmm...... Lake George/St Johns River??? ;)
guntersville would be awesome alot of guys would get there biggest bass ever out of that lake, dale hollow is nice too.
On the Ohio River, it really does depend on where it is being held. The fishing can actually be outstanding in some pools. Granted you are gonna break any state or world records fishing the river, but there are really good numbers of fish if you are in the right pool. A 10-12 pound sack on the Ohio is a very good bag, but I have seen better. I am by no means an expert on this river, I have only been on it 6 times. It is very challenging with a lot of dead water, but when you do find the fish they are very cooperative. Rocky Point here in Indiana is a good pool and Paducah, Kentucky is also a good pool. Just above that is Smithland Pool which produces a lot of fish. You can come in with a sack on the Ohio that includes smallies, largemouth, and spots. There is a lot of room to fish and not very many community holes (there are a few) on the river so it will hold a very large tournament such as the NBAA classic. The first time I had to fish a classic on the river I was really not wanting to go their. I soon found out that it was not a bad place after all. My first day ever on the river produced 17 keepers for my father-in-law and I and we had at least 15 other short fish. It was definitely not near as bad as I had feared. The wonderful thing about tough bodies of water are that if you go with an open mind and are willing to put in a little work you can be handsomely rewarded by finding the pattern that very few will find. God Bless and Good Fishin'!
Its ironic how the same people that complained about the drive to kentucky are now the one complaining about it going to houghton becuase its too close.
MYNAME,
You are exactly right! If people quit complaining and put that time and energy into fishing maybe they would catch a few more or atleast have a much better experience on these lakes. Like I said it will be a great time no matter what.
not to worrie to much!!i well be goin thar anna ways ;) ;) ;)
holton lake or too ohio river i go thar ;) ;) ;)
i not mine drivin down thar kentuckie or down thar to tennisee or down thar to ohio of ovur thar new york or ovur thar saint claires lake,i jusss go thar ;) ;) ;)
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why wait till may? post the location right now!!!! i like to plan my tournament schedule right now. if its going somewhere i don't want to go, i won't fish any of their tournaments. just for the record, gas money doesn't mean anything to me. i loved kentucky. i would tow my boat to brazil if i wanted to fish a classic there.
I think it is time to quit beating a dead horse. If you don't like the way they run the tournaments don't fish them. If they want to wait till the season gets sarted to anounce were the classic will be so they can lock guys into fishing that would not have fished it because of the location of the classic that is NBAA's right. Thats how it is going to be. Complaining about it on this board won't do you any good. Take it from me, it is falling on def ears.
This is an interesting post. I am a director as you most know and believe me, Houghton over Kentucky/Barkley was not my favorite choice, but I know there were issues with Kenn/Bark and a decision was made to go in state. At last years classic I do remember a sheet was passed around asking where people would like to have the Classic. Maybe "in state" was the choice of most, I do not know.
I do know planning, scheduling and funding a classic this size takes time. It also helps when the city/twp you're looking at provides funding and other perks. All major tournaments like to go where they are wanted and supported in various ways. Ask BASS & FLW...why they do not come back here?
The worst thing NBAA (or any tournament org) can do is announce a site before all the ground work as been finalized. That would just give everyone something else to complain about. Hopefully, it will be a site that is challenging, out of state and some place everyone will enjoy.
The fact is it is a Classic. If you're going, enjoy the friendships and kick-butt.
Later,
GT
Thanks George and well said.
Yes, very well said. I enjoy the fellowship of seeing who is new to the classic, and seeing old friends and getting a chance to catch up in some fun conversation.
And we all like to pick on squid at the classic too!
Jason,
This post has nothing to do with "if you dont like hte way they run ther tounaments" It wasnt even brought up. No trail would ever wait to make an annoucment, just to "lock people up" It is much more complicated than that. Hopefully someday your new trail will grow as much as this and you also will have all the headaches that come along with running a massive trail. Massive, not 10-20 boats.
Me
Quote from: MYNAME on March 09, 2007, 11:18:05 AM
Jason,
This post has nothing to do with "if you dont like hte way they run ther tounaments" It wasnt even brought up. No trail would ever wait to make an annoucment, just to "lock people up" It is much more complicated than that. Hopefully someday your new trail will grow as much as this and you also will have all the headaches that come along with running a massive trail. Massive, not 10-20 boats.
Me
Nothing he said was wrong from my experience. This is a thread about the classic, which they run. I understand how you can't release info until it's finalized, but with such a big change some info would have helped. I would have fished with nbaa last year if I knew they were considering a Michigan location for the classic. By the way MYNAME, might want to sign your posts you look like your hiding something with that name and signature.
-Matt
Quote from: Genie on March 09, 2007, 07:37:36 AM
And we all like to pick on squid at the classic too!
GENIE...now that sounds gay....lol. You going to Lansing this weekend? If so....see you there....an no picking on me....You will see or hear what I am talking about. Has nothing to do with my hair either...... ::)
Matt,
When did you start your fishing season last year? End of May? Begining of June? I found out about the Michigan Classic Begining of May.
The choice to make of fishing with NBAA should not be made due to where the Classic is going to be held. It should be made on whether you like the enviroment of the Divisions near you. The people you fish against every week or on the weekend events. Or just the fact you like beating all those saps who donate their money you seem to win all the time.
Never Judge a Trail based on where the Classic is being held...That is just a cheesey reason not to fish with them. If ya don't like the Organization.....THEN DON'T FISH WITH THEM.
Other than that.... have an enjoyable season...and get your licenses now while they are still $15. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
most people will still fish nbaa even if they choose not to go to the classic next year. But it should not matter were the classic is you still have to put your time in and do your homework on that body of water weather you now it or not.You still need to fish weather it is a tough body of water or easy.
Quote from: MYNAME on March 09, 2007, 11:18:05 AM
Jason,
This post has nothing to do with "if you dont like hte way they run ther tounaments" It wasnt even brought up. No trail would ever wait to make an annoucment, just to "lock people up" It is much more complicated than that. Hopefully someday your new trail will grow as much as this and you also will have all the headaches that come along with running a massive trail. Massive, not 10-20 boats.
Me
Let's get one thing out of the way I am not running the outlaw tournaments. I have nothing to do with them as far as making rules, payout, schedual or the weigh in, I am helping the tournament director promote them!
That being said, I realy don't give a rat behinde what happens with the classic, I just think that a tournament group as large as they are would have all there ducks in a row by now. And if they are going to a place that will draw more guys to fish there tournaments than I would put that info out right now. If they are going to go to a lake or river that is not so great why post the info right away.
If you are going to slam me don't hide behind a sceen name.
Jason Ammerman
atta boy jason!!!!!!!!!! these guys don't seem to get the what i'm saying. i like most of the guys i fish against. it has little to do with the classic format or if i even have a chance of winning a boat. i really don't think the classic location was announced in may last year. it was in mid july before i heard about it. announce it now, and no one can claim they didn't hear it soon enough. other wise, jason may be right, and you're trying to hook guys in till it's too late. where's LGMOUTH's take on this????????????????
I think most guys are to wraped up in fishing for a BOAT, you can fish for a boat on just about any weekend. just get online and look for a tournament down south. If you fish a Stren series you can win a boat and you don't have to fish all year to make it.
i likes it wheen yous all gets goin bout this ;) ;) ;)
makes me laff :D :D :D
goin down ohio river nex yeer ;) ;) ;)
4 to 5 lb strings are commin :D :D :D
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I have been at the Lansing show the past two days and havent got a chance to get online.
I do beleive that the classic was annouced last year in late May and thats because of the trouble that they had with the Kentucky site. This years classic is going to be announced Sunday to all the Directors and then I will be able to tell you where it is going to be for sure.
It not that bad to have the classic in michigan but why didn't they put it on the lakeshore out of muskegon then you could go whereever you wanted, and a lot more nbaa members have fished those lakes before. I heard that the town in kentucky you all stayed at didn't kick any money at nbaa. That is pretty poor reason not to go back there if thats the case.
I can't blaim NBAA for wanting to get a little money from a town for bringing that many guy's down, but they should look at the lake and see if it can handle that big of a field, I don't think that this years site can handle it. NBAA is almost forced to go south to find a spot that can support 300 boats for a week of fishing. or they should have smaller fields. they let just about any one fish that fishes 5 weekend and 12 overtime tournaments.
I doubt you will ever see it on muskegan its just not big enough if its windy and boats cant get out plus not everybody is running 20' plus rigs to keep it safe if they do get out.
houghton may not have been the best pick but theres worse places to go, in this present economy Id bet theres alot of happy guys that will be able to fish houghton that could not have afforded to drive 12 hours each way to a place like kentucky/barkley.
if it gets windy on houghton, the guys with small rigs (PLUS MOST EVERYONE ELSE) will be bunched up in the creeks and canals. that should be a good place to go watch a fight, and who knows, a bass tournament might break out. that's a big lake by MI standards, but not big enough for that many boats.
the best thing about going south is that we can start real tournament fishing earlier in the year (paper tounaments don't count). the fish are bigger. find a city down there that will give NBAA the kickbacks they want. start looking further out. my boss doesn't look this week for the jobs i'll do next week!!!!
Well said fish hound. You sound like a very smart guy. I think BASS and FLW have there classic locations for the next 3 years. I could understad it if you were talking about a 30 or 40 boat classic. But they know how many boats they will have for there classic. Like i said pretty much every one goes that wants to. I think the answer to the proble is a smaller field for the classic. it would open up a lot more lakes to fish, and it would truely be the best anglers that get to fish it.
i laugh 'cause you don't even have to catch a fish to have a chance to win the boat if you qualify from the overtime divisions. apparently it has nothing to do with who can fish the best, just who will show up. maybe if they had a Ranger or Champ to give away i might get in on that, but i work too late during the week in the summer to hit a whole division.
You know you two crack me up... complain,complain, complain... I fish with the guys on the weeknights and there are alot of great anglers that fish just as hard as anyone else and who deserve to go to the classic as much as anyone else. Who cares where it is, if you are a good fisherman as you say then adapt and fish. Stop tearing down a good organization that puts more back into their anglers than you will ever know. If you have all the answers and the best way to do things and such a great plan for how classics and tournaments should be run then go out and start your own and show us how it is. Stop telling us when you do nothing but complain about this and that and everything else. I have read your post and your ridicule and your complaints and all of that and I for one am really sick of the negativity. Pardon me for saying so but take your own advice from your own post and if you don't like it then don't fish with NBAA. But don't keep tearing down what others are trying so hard to build up and continue to see succeed in spite of the guys that can't stand it because all they do is complain. So now go ahead with whatever you need to call me or say but at least maybe you will get off your vandeta against NBAA. Leave it alone and move on....
Very good post silverminnow I couldnt have said it better myself. I would like to add one thing though. It sounds like neither of you guys are going to fish NBAA or the Classic so why are you posting all of this on the NBAA forum section and if you are fishing these then why are you complaining about them. I also am tired of reading all of this negativity toward an organization that is only trying to make our great sport better for all of us. I am proud to be apart of NBAA and everything that they do so posting on this forum board all of your complaints wont get you anywhere with me or probably any other member that reads this NBAA forum post. If you have complaints that you want to voice I would suggest going right to the top and give Jim or Jack a call.
Company Man
at least NBAA has a true classic for the non pro angler with alot of competition and real prizes like skeeter boats and I believe its 3 of them and cash not every trail offers a true classic why would somebody bag on such an awesome trail for the non pro guy.
you guys cant afford or qualify for a real classic or we would have seen you on tv a couple weeks ago and you wouldnt be on the computer becouse you would be fishing in texas right now paying $5500.00 for each tournament.
I would be happy to fish a small lake with 300 guys for a chance at 1 boat let alone 3 of them, you obviousley havent the slightest clue as to how much work and preperation goes into getting huge sponsers or organizing and funding such an event, come on guys find a better cause to fight for, maybe use your negative energy to send the governor a love letter or something worth while.
there seems to be a lot of " negativity " on this site as well as others i visit. maybe we need this warm weather to get everyone outside away from these boxes. guess if someone is not happy with a series rather than bash it, they need to visit Roy Randolphs site. he has a list of close to 900 tournys for this summer. if you can't find something there you like, there is always golf.
http://www.royrandolph.com/fishing/opens.htm
I am just trying to give some ideas how the problem can be solved. Thats all I am not complaining. I just think that the problem can be solved in a couple differant ways. I really think that a smaller field would make lake selection alot easyer. Thats all I am saying.
who cares !!!
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OK, i crossed some lines. i apologize. however, i used to have a saying when i was a platoon sargeant: "it's time to start worrying when the complaining stops, cause that means all your guys are dead". fun is what brings most guys out to fish, but good classics are what keep them around for a whole series. i'm just the guy voicing opinion for quite a few anglers. there are tournaments i'll fish, but not whole divisions, and i have run a club before, complaints are as big a part of it as a bump board and set of scales.
The classic is what it is and none of us can change it. I think that no matter where it is everyone that attends will have a great time. I will tell you this, last year at Kentucky/Barclay was my first classic with NBAA, I had never seen the water, did not know what to expect and knew that I really had very little chance of doing very well given the circumstances. I weighed in one fish, my partner wouldn't even go on stage with me. I still did it to proof the point that I came, I fished, I caught one keeper and I had a great time doing it. We had some guys from our division that went to the championship and we got behind them to cheer them on. I love to win and am very competitive but I am still learning. Maybe as I become better my way of thinking will change but I also love to have fun with fishing. I am fishing with my 12 year old son this year in the weeknight tournaments and I want him to love our sport and learn to have fun with it as well as be competitive. No matter where we end up going my point is that we should not forget to have fun and enjoy those we fish with. Thanks for the positive responses and not bashing me or anyone else that responded in a positive way as I really believe we all have the same goal and that is to promote a great sport and have fun with it. (and sometimes win a little money back to keep our wives happy and throw them off of how much we really spend doing this.) That is my warm and fuzzy post for this month. Hope you guys have a good day and Spring is just around the corner. COME ON SPRING!!!!!!
Hey guys, I just got a call from the Lansing show. NBAA has 250 teams signed up right now for Houghton Lk. That should be alot of fun and obviously guys are coming to the classic as it is closer this year and makes it easier to afford. They also announced the site for next year. I will tell you as long as we can all except it is what it is and check it out before passing judgment............. Ok, good I am glad we can do that..... The classic for 2008 is going out of Carollton Kentucky on the Ohio River. (Near Tanners Creek) I went to the web site for Carollton and it actually looks like a nice place to hold an event such as this. Ok, go check out the site and tell your buddies where it is so we can all plan on being there for another great NBAA classic. See ya and have a great day. ;D ;D ;D
i'm a little naive to nbaa stuff here so help me out.....
you guys fish the classic as your opening event of the year right?
do you have to qualify for it the season prior (in this case '06)?
Yes sir, You qualify for the 2007 classic in the 2006 season. There are different criteria based on weeknight and weekend series. The weekend series you have to fish 5 out of 6 events and place in the top finishers based on # of boats.(which determines how many anglers from that division can go)In the weeknight series you have to fish 10 out of 12 events to qualify and also be in the top finishers based on # of boats in that division. You can also be drawn as a widlcard for that as well. In both you must fish at least half of the events to go as a sub if someone needs a sub.
OK, so there it is. ohio river. thanks for putting it out. i guess not ALL rumors are false.
it feels good when your right ha fish hound :D
ok points back to you ::) ;D
That sounds like it will be a fun time! Wish I could go but I have a schedual conflict. I am sure all of the guy's that make it will have fun and enjoy the banquet, fishing, and Commodity. I have been to that section of the Ohio river before if any one needs any info on how to catch them down there let me know. Good luck and have a good time.
hey guys, I mispoke on the qualifications. Please allow me to try to clear this up. There are only 5 weekend events. You must fish at least 3 of the 5 in each divsion to qualify as a sub. You must fish at least 4 of the 5 to be able to qualify as a wildcard. This year the top boats that go will go on the overall points accumluated in one division no matter how many of the 5 they fish.
In the weeknight divisions you must fish 10 out of 12 to be able to go as a wildcard and at least 6 out of 12 to be a sub. Again the top boats will go based on the overall points accumulated no matter how many of the 12 regular season tournaments you fish in one division. Remember the 13th week is a divsional championship and does not count towards points. Some guys have qualified from more than one division and have to choose which one they want to go to the classic under. If they are qualified in multiple divisions the one they don't go from allows the next guy in line to go instead.
I am sorry if I caused any confusion over that. have a great night.
I am glad it is on the Ohio now I can put all those maps I purchased to good use....lol. Anyways, it sounds like a good spot to hold the classic. I like when they change it up from year to year it gives a new challenge and a lot of fun. I wish all these people would stop complaining about the classic and NBAA and go fish something else, we don't need those poor sports to show up and ruin everyone elses fun. I don't fish NBAA to make a ton of money and be famous. I simply fish NBAA for the fun of meeting new people the challenge of the new divisions the competition because NBAA has some of the best fisherman there are in the state fishing and compeating. All in all could they make some improvements sure but what business or organization can't. They do the best they can to give the anglers what they want and the anglers still complain. They are never going to make everyone completley happy that's just the way it goes. Best thing to do is go fish and have fun win some money if you can if not take away the fun of the even and new people you meet. If you want to make a lot of money and have classics on bigger lakes or more well known lakes go qualify for the BASS or FLW tour and be quiet about these smaller trails.
Dhuff, thanks for your input. If you look back a little there was an apology and I think we all have agreed to move on and get back to having some fun on this board. At least on this subject from what I can see. Good bunch of guys here we all get off track now and again but as you can see we can all get along. I am also looking forward to the Ohio river, heck I had never fished Kentucky so I hope I can't do any worse. I may have to take outlaw up on his offer of some advice though. :o :o :o
Hey Silverminnow,
Did they says what pool of the Ohio River it is on? Do they have a name for that area of the Ohio River that they are planning on launching from? Thanks. Sorry I didn't see the post about people kissing and making up. I just hate cry babys when it is supposed to be fun.
I didn't hear a pool but I know it is near Tanners Creek somewhere from what I was told. Maybe Lrgmth can give more info on the pool. I think he will be around soon. I did check out the website for their town and didn't really see any info. on the exact location there either. I will let you know if I can get some specifics and I will post them.
I went on to google maps and did not find a pool listed for that area. It looks like there are two launches in the town but I don't know where we are launching out of. I am sure that now the annoucement has been made that NBAA will be working on getting something on their web site. But whatever info I get that is clear to pass on I will pass it on. You guys have a great night and I am out of here for tonight. SEE YA!!!!
Im not 100% on which one it is but it is either McAlpine pool or Markland pool. They are both right there at carrolton but Im not sure which one we will be launching in. Like silverminnow said NBAA will put it up on the web as soon as possible and also in there next issue of the magazine. I know you will be able to lock through to any one of the pools that you would like to fish and also the pools that we are going out of are some of the best fishing on the Ohio river. It should be a fun time now we only have to wait for a year and two months before we get to go. ;D
LGMOUTH,
Thanks for the info. Should we start the countdown now? Heck with that lets get the countdown to open water going.
Quote from: dhuff on March 11, 2007, 09:37:34 PM
I am glad it is on the Ohio now I can put all those maps I purchased to good use....lol. Anyways, it sounds like a good spot to hold the classic. I like when they change it up from year to year it gives a new challenge and a lot of fun. I wish all these people would stop complaining about the classic and NBAA and go fish something else, we don't need those poor sports to show up and ruin everyone elses fun. I don't fish NBAA to make a ton of money and be famous. I simply fish NBAA for the fun of meeting new people the challenge of the new divisions the competition because NBAA has some of the best fisherman there are in the state fishing and compeating. All in all could they make some improvements sure but what business or organization can't. They do the best they can to give the anglers what they want and the anglers still complain. They are never going to make everyone completley happy that's just the way it goes. Best thing to do is go fish and have fun win some money if you can if not take away the fun of the even and new people you meet. If you want to make a lot of money and have classics on bigger lakes or more well known lakes go qualify for the BASS or FLW tour and be quiet about these smaller trails.
I have to challenge one thing you said in your post, The part about the best fisherman in the state. There are some real good fisherman but you can't make a statement like that when NBAA has a rule to keep anglers out that fish certain tournaments. Good luck and have fun at the OHIO river next year.
Quote from: OUTLAW on March 11, 2007, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: dhuff on March 11, 2007, 09:37:34 PM
I am glad it is on the Ohio now I can put all those maps I purchased to good use....lol. Anyways, it sounds like a good spot to hold the classic. I like when they change it up from year to year it gives a new challenge and a lot of fun. I wish all these people would stop complaining about the classic and NBAA and go fish something else, we don't need those poor sports to show up and ruin everyone elses fun. I don't fish NBAA to make a ton of money and be famous. I simply fish NBAA for the fun of meeting new people the challenge of the new divisions the competition because NBAA has some of the best fisherman there are in the state fishing and compeating. All in all could they make some improvements sure but what business or organization can't. They do the best they can to give the anglers what they want and the anglers still complain. They are never going to make everyone completley happy that's just the way it goes. Best thing to do is go fish and have fun win some money if you can if not take away the fun of the even and new people you meet. If you want to make a lot of money and have classics on bigger lakes or more well known lakes go qualify for the BASS or FLW tour and be quiet about these smaller trails.
I have to challenge one thing you said in your post, The part about the best fisherman in the state. There are some real good fisherman but you can't make a statement like that when NBAA has a rule to keep anglers out that fish certain tournaments. Good luck and have fun at the OHIO river next year.
There are only a few tournaments that these anglers cant fish (any tournament that has a first place prize of $2400 or more or the new semi pro) that takes in less that 10 out of the 1000 tournaments NBAA will put on this year. I would have to agree with dhuff on this one.
The rule keeps them out of the best tournaments that NBAA puts on. why fish the outhers if you can't get to the best tournaments. The whole idea is to qualify for the year end events, to have a chance to fish for the big prizes. Thats why most guys fish all year.
It is also not in Kentuckty...another rumor. I wish Jim Sprague would stop starting these rumors... ::)
theres only like 3 guys in the state of michigan that would not be eligibale becouse they are full time pro's heres the rule I think its very reasonable.
19. PRO/GUIDE EXCLUSIONS: Participants, who have fished two or more events, in the preceding 12 month period, with an entry fee in excess of $1,499.00 per event, will not be eligible to participate in any NBAA event with an guaranteed 1st Place prize in excess of $2,400.00 (does not apply to amateur participants in pro/am events). Nor will individuals serving as licensed guides, or are paid for guiding on tournament waters within the pre-ceding 30-day period are not eligible to participate in events held on those waters for tournaments with a guaranteed 1st Place prize of $2400.00 or more
well this clasic locatiun be a good place fur chuckin spinners bait ??? ???
i not ben thar befour and was wondurin bout this ??? ???
maybee i shood lurn sumething diffurant this yeer fur goin thar ;) ;)
maybee fishin nippadittees of sumthin like that ;D ;D ;D
this ohio rivur has grean fish an brown fish thar ??? ??? spotts ??? ???
juss wondurin ??? ???
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Quote from: BASS FISHERMAN on March 12, 2007, 11:35:59 AM
well this clasic locatiun be a good place fur chuckin spinners bait ??? ???
i not ben thar befour and was wondurin bout this ??? ???
maybee i shood lurn sumething diffurant this yeer fur goin thar ;) ;)
maybee fishin nippadittees of sumthin like that ;D ;D ;D
this ohio rivur has grean fish an brown fish thar ??? ??? spotts ??? ???
juss wondurin ??? ???
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LOL...do ever fish anything else? You must throw a lot of spinnerbaits....lol
I would say that some of the best fisherman in the state do fish NBAA. And I disagree that they are trying to keep those anglers out of the best tournaments. Those are not the best tournaments they are in the first year and are only a very few tournaments out of a huge selection like LGMOUTH said. What about the new one on ones, or the classic tourneys they don't keep the best anglers out of those not to mention several other divisions that are very competitive. Now I will say do I totally agree with the semi pro opens. Not a 100%. I feel they are good to get new anglers into tournament fishing and learn the ropes. However, I am one of those people that believe you get the most satisfaction out of compeating and beating the best anglers they have to put out there. There is so much to learn from these guys.
Quote from: dhuff on March 12, 2007, 05:56:22 PM
What about the new one on ones, or the classic tourneys they don't keep the best anglers out of those not to mention several other divisions that are very competitive. Now I will say do I totally agree with the semi pro opens. Not a 100%. I feel they are good to get new anglers into tournament fishing and learn the ropes. However, I am one of those people that believe you get the most satisfaction out of compeating and beating the best anglers they have to put out there. There is so much to, learn from these guys.
I hate to do this dhuff but you are wrong on the classics, they do keep these anglers from fishing them because the first place prize is worth more than the $2400 limit. But let me voice my opinion on this. NBAA is a grass roots tournament trail, they want the grass roots anglers to win the good stuff and theres nothing wrong with that. The Pros have had thier day in this and other tournament trails as they were working their way up the ranks and it is was just time for them to move on. Dont get me wrong I am like you I like fishing against the best fishermen and I believe it makes me a better fisherman. On the other hand I believe I am in the minority on this. I think most of the anglers on here believe like I do but I think most of the anglers that fish these types of tournaments would just assume not fish against them. Thats why I think the NBAA SemiPros will be a big hit. Again just another option for us anglers.
Quote from: OUTLAW on March 11, 2007, 11:23:16 PM
The rule keeps them out of the best tournaments that NBAA puts on. why fish the outhers if you can't get to the best tournaments. The whole idea is to qualify for the year end events, to have a chance to fish for the big prizes. Thats why most guys fish all year.
Your going to have to ask Chip Harrison, Tony Defippilo, Randy Ramsey, Kevin Vida, and more about this. They all fished NBAA tournaments last year and didnt qualify for the classic. These are the best of the best in our neck of the woods (except maybe KVD LOL) So again I would have to agree with dhuff that the best do fish NBAA.
BFL Buckeye division has had events there for years. seems around 9 pounds wins and 4 pounds will get you a check. select the years on the right and select the tanners creek event. there is a write about each event and results
1996-1999 they had 150 - 225 boats per event.
here is the link.
http://bfl.flwoutdoors.com/tournament.cfm?cid=2&t=results
Looks like alot of fish caught just small. The only difference that I see is there were no tournaments in May to compare to. I guess Im going to have to do some homework and find the may tournaments. Thanks dartag for the link.
ohio rivur allways produse small fish an small sacks an not mannie fishes aswell :( :( :(
this is no brag butt juss fact :D :D :D
all i goin to do is starts in chuckin spinners bait an ends up chickin spinners bait down thar ;D ;D ;D
i has all five of me fishin poles rig an reedie fur actiun with spinners bait on thar ;D ;D ;D
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I herd NBAA is going to make it against the rules to use spinnerbaits and daredeviles. It is going to be a senko only tourny. ;D
Im pushing for a Jerkbait only tourny ;D
i thought once you leave the state it was all about the beaver????
Well LGMOUTH, I guess I can't be right on everything. I agree on the semi pro events, I feel it is good for new anglers to get their feet wet but for me I would rather compeat against the best out there fishing it makes you step up your game and focus more. In those tournaments you know you can not afford to make a mistake so you stay sharp. I look at it this way if you want to be the best you got to beat the best not second best.
Now that they have the semi pro tournaments are they going to open up big tx to the big guys?
Nope everything is going to stay the way it is now.
If the water is going up, chuck some spinnerbaits. If the water is low and/or stable, better be pitching some jigs. I heard there's a few jig pitchers in that there Mid-State club.
If you can find some, get some all silver flake plastics in case the water is muddy and you're around a lot of shad.
Of course, everyone has to fish Houghton first. Someone will find and catch a bunch. There's a lot of bass in that lake and you don't necessarily have to flog the obvious canals and such to do well. In fact, you'll probably be better off if you don't.
if your going to fish tournments you might as well fis against the best why put a rule in there for pros. It is just a simple game you just have to catch fish just like they do.
I was going to respond and explain all of this again, but I won't I will simply say a lot of work is going into these events and those that qualify under the rule whether you agree or not will have a great time. If you qualify and want to fish come on out. If you don't qualidy it doesn't matter so what is the sense in grinding it into the ground. This has become very tiresome and somewhat discouraging for me and I am going to try very hard not to let the nasayers get me down. I really think I need a break from this board. See you guys on the water....
MAYBEE I SEE YA UP THAR HOLTON LAKE ??? ??? ???
OR MAYBEE NO ??? ??? ???
ONILY TIMES WELL TELL BOUT THAT :D :D :D
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Sometimes trying to respond to everything can be tiring... so just don't respond to everything. About a 1,000 posts ago somewhere on this forum we had a talk about different plans for different anglers; fish what you like, don't fish what you don't like (same goes for posts - read what you like, skip what you don't); expect that when you are the big kid on the block, some people will come out of the woodwork and take a few potshots; and most important - if you are growing and getting good participation, you are probably meeting the needs of the silent majority.
This goes for the tournament organizer and anglers both - tournament organizers, don't get too caught up in a small number of anglers who want you to change your plan when your plan is obviously working, meaning the majority is happy.
Anglers, if the organization is obviously doing well and growing, but you think they are doing it wrong or shoud do it different, you are probably NOT in the majority and should consider that before you post so you aren't surprised when the organization continues along its chosen business plan anyway.
There's always a few people willing to tell everyone else what they are doing wrong even if they have no firsthand experience themselves. I think it is great advice that if you think it can be done better a different way, then go do it yourself and show everyone. I'm serious about that. Do it yourself and see how it goes. It may provide some extremely helpful insight into running various enterprises, and human psychology.
What I see when I read this thread is the same fallacies I see often on fishing boards - ignorance of the realities of the situation as explained above. NBAA, keep doing what you are doing - you are obviously making the majority of anglers happy, and meeting their needs and expectations.
Anglers who want them to do it differently, you are not in the majority, again obviously. Don't expect NBAA to change what is working to try to make happy a small number of anglers at the possible expense of the majority they need to be a viable business. That is not good business for anyone to listen too much to dissent when the dissent does not represent the customers your are targeting.
This is not a hard concept to grasp. I will ask right now that if you do not fish NBAA and don't plan on fishing NBAA, please go to other boards and talk about other things. If you want to suggest something once for future years to see how it goes over because you might fish them in future years, fine. Don't just suggest the same thing that has already been talked through. If you want to keep suggesting the same things over that they are not doing and not planning on doing for this upcoming season, you are pushing the boundary of just causing trouble for no positive gain to anyone on this forum.
Maybe we all need to go fishing really bad? Maybe there are other motivations that are less than admirable? I don't really care. Most of us are of adult age on here and should know how to act it. I do not believe it is too much to ask.
Therefore, I will have to start deleting and editing posts, which takes time I shouldn't have to give for issues like this.
Read how things are setup in NBAA for this year. Either accept it and fish it this year, or don't and fish something else. That's why there are other choices. I reserve the right to delete and edit anything I feel is necessary to keep this a friendly, informative, learning experience. I prefer to not have to use it.
The purpose of this NBAA board is for reports, results and information to participants and those seriously considering being a participant in NBAA. It is not for complaints and criticism of their business plan that is working very good for many anglers.
There are plenty of other places on the Internet and elsewhere to complain, criticize and be a negative without any need for GreatLakesBass.com to be another such place. That is not why I put all of this time into building it. The exact opposite of why I build it.
Thank you Dan. I know personally I fish tournaments for the fun of it. I have no asperations of turning pro or winning thousands of dollars. That's why I like the NBAA. It's close to home, I can fish a few different lakes, and once in a while I might win a few bucks. There are rules in everything thing you deal with in life.
Very well said Dan.
The one thing I learned about a big business is "IF PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING, YOU MUST BE GROWING". I always hated that, only cause it is true. Just like in the Navy..."A female dogY SAILOR IS A HAPPY SAILOR". "YOU'RE NOT HAPPY UNLESS YOU'RE COMPLAINING". Some of these ring true for most people...lol. That is why the rules are in place.....so you can read them and decide on what you want to do. for instance....it is against the law to drink and drive..a LAW....people still do....and still complain about it...lol
I like NBAA, cause I get to fish against the Pro's in my division, but when it come to a chance to win some bigger money...HEY...they have had their day and some still do....I would like my chance at my day......I enjoy seeing others at my level winning something big....a lot better than seeing a Pro beat out an amature.
There ya go...a new Fishing event....Joes VS Pro's....lol
Very well said Dan, Thanks.
too bad he has to take the time to write that much. time to put this one to bed.
thanks for the hard work dan..
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