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Title: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Larry313 on September 19, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
Would you still winterize your boat even if you keep it in your garage?  The garage is not heated.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Waterfoul on September 19, 2012, 02:22:07 PM
Do you have an outboard or an I/O??   Heated or cold storage?

Honestly, as some one "in the biz" as they say, you should winterize your motor no matter where you store it.

If it's an outboard you should change the lower unit gear fluid so it is fresh and moisture free all winter, you'd hate to have a little water in there causing rust and corrosion while stored.  You should treat you gas and keep the tank at least 3/4 full.  You should then fog the motor and pistons to keep the induction system from shellacking and the rings from rusting and causing issues when you start up in the spring.  On outboards the temperature has less to do with it than the actually "layup" time.

If it's an I/O do all of the above plus change the oil and filter.  You also need to put marine antifreeze in your block and exhaust manifolds... even if you store it indoors and heated.  Marine antifreeze also contains anti-corrosive chemicals to keep your motors from rusting from the inside out.


Any questions, just ask.

Mike
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: fiker on September 19, 2012, 03:49:31 PM
I do all of those things and also grease all fittings. 

The batteries should be kept charged up as well, but first inspect to make sure they are at the proper water level.  Charging batteries with exposed plates can create a deposit on the plates and reduce the efficiency and life of the batteries.

A friend of mine jacks his trailer up and puts it on jack stands for the winter.  This leaves the tires free without any weight on them. 

I build a cover over my boat to keep the water out, but also allow air to circulate.
I prop open all boat hatches, and put dryer sheets inside to keep out rodents. 

I crank the trailer jack up high and then let it down onto a log.  This takes the pressure off of the jack for the winter. 

I remove the drain plug.  I also lower the motor to protect the hydraulic cylinder of the power tilt.

I fill my gas tank all the way and put in a product called "Phase Guard 4" that I purchased from West Marine.  It is one of the few treatments that actually claim to eliminate phase separation. 

On my HPDI Yamaha I also drain the small gas tank under the cowling, as well as empty out the fuel filter.  I drain the fuel line as best I can.

Sonar and GPS units come inside for the winter.  I put the cable ends inside plastic bags to protect them from moisture. 

I also put plastic a plastic bag around the trailer light plug to keep out the weather.

I put a good coat of paste wax on the hull after cleaning it.

I remove the prop and inspect it making sure no line has been trapped behind it.

It takes me about 1/2 a day to do all this.  But come next Spring, I want to just throw my gear in and take off.   

So far, no problems.  Knock on wood.



Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Lightningboy on September 19, 2012, 06:45:28 PM
Mine sits in an unheated garage for the winter.  I do the following:

Treat the remaining gas on my last trip out.  Driving with the treatment in the gas makes sure it permeates the fuel system.  I keep the fuel as low as possible, usually less than 1/4 tank.  I know that goes against conventional wisdom to prevent water in the gas tank, but I don't believe modern plastic tanks condense like old gas tanks did.  I'm more concerned with the gas loosing octane over the winter.  I fill up in the spring to keep octane loss to a minimum.

Gear gets pulled & stored in the house.  Winter is a great time to fix stuff, easier when it's indoors.  Compartments get cleaned.

L/U lube is changed.  Cylinders are fogged.  Batteries topped off & kept on the charger.

Cover on top to prevent dust.

Pet her a little to say goodbye for three months... :'(
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: motocross269 on September 19, 2012, 07:26:06 PM
The best thing to do is make sure you follow the manufacturers directions for winterizing...Each Manufacturer's winterization procedures are a little different and they do change....

For example..Mercury does not reccommend "Fogging" optimax engines becuase of buildup in the injectors..They reccommend just puting a drop of 2 stroke oil in each cylinder...My old Evinrude it was fog away...I was glad that I went to the website before I put my new Pro XS to bed last fall....It could have been ugly come warranty time....
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: HellaBass on September 19, 2012, 09:07:18 PM
Quote from: Lightningboy on September 19, 2012, 06:45:28 PM
Mine sits in an unheated garage for the winter.  I do the following:

Treat the remaining gas on my last trip out.  Driving with the treatment in the gas makes sure it permeates the fuel system.  I keep the fuel as low as possible, usually less than 1/4 tank.  I know that goes against conventional wisdom to prevent water in the gas tank, but I don't believe modern plastic tanks condense like old gas tanks did.  I'm more concerned with the gas loosing octane over the winter.  I fill up in the spring to keep octane loss to a minimum.

Gear gets pulled & stored in the house.  Winter is a great time to fix stuff, easier when it's indoors.  Compartments get cleaned.

L/U lube is changed.  Cylinders are fogged.  Batteries topped off & kept on the charger.

Cover on top to prevent dust.

Pet her a little to say goodbye for three months... :'(

This is me, my boat's last trip is usually November and gets back out in late March
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Big dreams on September 20, 2012, 12:52:06 PM
If we have a winter like last year, you will see me out on the lake on Christmas eve and New Years eve.  If that is the case, no need to winterize.  We can only hope  ;D
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Larry313 on September 20, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate the input
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Bender on September 20, 2012, 01:05:48 PM
Only other suggestion I have is to drain the water lines for your water pressure gauge and speedo (if you care about it). I've had 2 water pressure gauges get screwed up from freezing I think. I need to find the little hose back in the bilge and add a tee fitting with a valve for draining.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Waterfoul on September 20, 2012, 09:37:41 PM
Technically neither of those gauges should ever see a drop of water... they are esentially just air pressure gauges and the water should never get that far unless they have a leaky seal.  That said, I've had to get a new water pressure gauge 2 springs in a row!!  The speedo hadn't worked since I bought the boat and I don't really care.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Frank on September 21, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
this is what i do:

Change the lower unit oil
fish every week through December
fish twice a month in January and February
Back to once a week in March
after that Im on the water a lot

Frank
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Mike S. on September 22, 2012, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: Waterfoul on September 20, 2012, 09:37:41 PM
Technically neither of those gauges should ever see a drop of water... they are esentially just air pressure gauges and the water should never get that far unless they have a leaky seal.  That said, I've had to get a new water pressure gauge 2 springs in a row!!  The speedo hadn't worked since I bought the boat and I don't really care.

The speedo, Mike?  Boy, I caught all kinds of flack for that in the spring.

As for winterizing, I change the lower unit lube. The motor gets run up and down several times to get the water out. Jackplate and trim is left all the way down for storage. I run Stabil through the system on my last few trips. I generally try to have the tanks empty for winter. That's about it. My garage is insulated really well. I've never seen anything freeze in it.

My fingers are crossed that the boat only sits six weeks this year too.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: BIGSHOW on October 28, 2012, 05:35:37 AM
When pulling the prop off to check for fishing line or whatever. Is it just a basic do it like you see it? There is a ring with a tab folded over and nut. Never bothered to mess with mine. Do you grease the shaft? Thanks
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Mike S. on October 28, 2012, 12:36:08 PM
Bend the tab up, and take the nut off. Put it back together in the order it came apart.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: t-bone on October 29, 2012, 08:31:25 AM
I just changed my prop and it does suggest you grease the shaft. Lithium Marine grease or check with your prop manufacturer.  I think the point of the grease its to prevent corrosion and to make it easier for the prop to slide off in the future.
I couldn't get my thrust washer off to put a new one on but I read that a few light taps of a small hammer will do it - going to give that a try tonight.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: BIGSHOW on October 30, 2012, 12:08:04 PM
Sounds easy enough. I guess there's always youtube to check out too. What did we ever do before the internet?
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: bigjc on November 29, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: Frank on September 21, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
this is what i do:

Change the lower unit oil
fish every week through December
fish twice a month in January and February
Back to once a week in March
after that Im on the water a lot

Frank
When do you find time to work??? Yo are a lucky man!
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: BIGSHOW on November 30, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
Thats my problem. Finding time. That why I have the shop do it. Can make alot more working and let the pros do it. I always have extra parts
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Frank on December 01, 2012, 01:18:01 AM
i only work 60 or so hours a week so I have lots of free time.  I do miss out on some things though.  I did hear once of something called sleep, I just haven't figured out how to do it without my boat getting lonely.  Seriously though, I work mainly from 6pm til 3am, and i do days on mon wed and friday.  my days are usually spent on a lake.  i just wish i knew how to catch fish
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: djkimmel on December 01, 2012, 02:34:10 PM
Keep it up like that and you'll... be real tired... but you might also become a really good angler.

Get some sleep. Sleep helps make you a better angler. Start slowly and work your way up to a little more sleep. It won't cut into your fishing so much...
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: bigjc on December 01, 2012, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: Larry313 on September 19, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
Would you still winterize your boat even if you keep it in your garage?  The garage is not heated.

I keep my boat in an unheated garage every winter, and I only take two precautions: fuel stabilizer and change the lower unit fluid.  In fact, I just drained the fluid this afternoon.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: Mike S. on December 02, 2012, 11:22:55 AM
There is no need to winterize yet. We are in Michigan. We don't get winter anymore. Being as it seems we have adopted the climate of a southern state, we should get to adopt their bass fishing legislations. I haven't even thought about putting the boat away yet. We still have 29 days left.
Title: Re: Winterizing Your Boat
Post by: BIGSHOW on December 02, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
Never know here. 80 today 10 tomorrow