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Title: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: robhj on August 17, 2012, 04:19:14 PM
Hey guys, I upgraded me electronics at the beginning of the season & had a boat dealership install a Humminbird SI unit for my console. I'm very pleased with the unit, however, I get a significant rooster tail around my transducer as soon as my boat gets any kind of speed. The transducer is obviously larger than my older unit but looks to be in the right position. I did find some information on line regarding this issue which doesn't seem to be all that uncommon. From what I can read, the issue is from water being forced up through a slot between the transducer & the bracket and can be resolved by plugging then hole or adding some kind of plate near the transducer. It isn't a huge issue and I've put up with it all year but it does look silly when I'm driving down the lake going 15-20mph with a 8' rooster tail. Anyone experience this or have some suggestions before I start to work on it?

Thanks,
Rob
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: Waterfoul on August 17, 2012, 05:00:14 PM
Without running outside and into the garage to look at mine... does the x-ducer bracket offer any adjustment up?  You might be able to slide it up just a touch and get rid of the issue.

Humminbird actually recommends that you don't mount the SI x-ducers below the bottom of the boat in the stream of water as the boat is moving, they (and me) have seen a lot of broken brackets because of the size of the x-ducer.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: djkimmel on August 17, 2012, 06:37:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that isn't right. You shouldn't get a rooster tail from the SI transducer when running as Mike says. I'm assuming it is the SI transducer you are referring too. Most of the people are installing it higher up on the hull since it is only used below 10mph if I remember right.

Does your hull allow for a high mounting location?

I'm concerned that if you plug the hole, that will put even more stress on the mount making it more likely you will join the ranks of the broken transducer mount group.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: robhj on August 17, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
Thanks guys. I've never experienced this before on any of my units. I know it isn't mounted below the bottom of the boat but I'll look at raising it some tomorrow to see if that fixes it. Of course I've said that at least 20 times this year but getting on the water always trumps me spending some time fixing the issue.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: djkimmel on August 17, 2012, 10:06:57 PM
I understand. What model hull do you have?
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: robhj on August 18, 2012, 10:53:27 AM
It's a medium V bottom aluminum multi-species boat. The transducer is in the same spot as the last one but it may have to come up some to see if that eliminates the spraying.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: djkimmel on August 18, 2012, 02:06:32 PM
That was what I was wondering. On some of the bass boat hulls, they mount the SI transducer higher up on one of the hull steps so they are above the water when running. With your hull you don't have the same convenience. You probably just have to move it somehow.

I can't recall anyone recently mentioning installing an SI transducer on an aluminum V-hull but maybe someone who has will see this and provide suggestions. If I remember or think of someone I will see what I can find out.

I do recall in the far past, I found a product that was a thick nylon plate you could install on the back of your aluminum hull and then use that to place transducers and other attachments at different levels and locations without putting any further holes through your hull.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: Lightningboy on August 19, 2012, 10:53:23 AM
The transducer should be out of the water when you're on plane.  Also, the front end of the transducer should be as tight to the hull as possible to prevent the problem you're talking about.

Do like Dan said; get the plastic board that mounts to the hull, and screw the transducer bracket to that.  Had one on my old Tracker.  Then you can mount the transducer in any spot you want.  The stuff is like cutting board plastic, so easy to drill.

In fact, you may find with some experimenting that you can get a better image with different locations.  Side imaging transducers can be very sensitive to water flow off the hull and lower unit.  I know with my Lowrance trimming too tight starts to degrade my image quality. 
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: djkimmel on August 19, 2012, 10:48:10 PM
I actually thought about just using a cutting board to save money at one point ;D Seems about the same but the cutting boards I saw weren't quite as thick. Not sure what they cost now but it shouldn't be too bad.

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I did like the idea that when someone were to ask me what brand of mounting plate I used I might have been able to answer "God bless this kitchen" or "Farberware" - something like that! But I did not follow through.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: robhj on August 20, 2012, 11:17:22 AM
Thanks again for the replies. I actually do have a mounting board attached to the hull which does make it easier to move things around. It sounds like my transducer may just be too low. I'll also see if I can get it tighter/closer to the hull.

Thanks,
Rob
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: djkimmel on August 21, 2012, 12:08:31 AM
You're almost there then.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: SethV on August 21, 2012, 10:25:27 AM
As the others said, get that big SI transducer up out of the water when on pad.  Use a shoot through 2d sonar puck with Y-cable for sonar at speed.

What "professional" installed it in that manner?  Hope you didn't pay much....   ::)
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: Waterfoul on August 21, 2012, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: SethV on August 21, 2012, 10:25:27 AM
As the others said, get that big SI transducer up out of the water when on pad.  Use a shoot through 2d sonar puck with Y-cable for sonar at speed.

What "professional" installed it in that manner?  Hope you didn't pay much....   ::)

He can't use a shoot-thru transducer, aluminum boat so it won't read thru the hull.  If he wants to read depth at speed he would have to get a standard transom transducer and the y-cable.
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: EKennedy on August 22, 2012, 01:27:45 PM
Mine does the same thing.  It came with a little rubber plug which I will install today...might help.  If not, I'll just raise it up a bit.  I estimated that it would be high enough...guess not.  I think all it needs is another inch. 
Title: Re: Transducer rooster tail
Post by: robhj on August 22, 2012, 02:39:03 PM
I don't rememeber a plug coming with my SI but then again it was installed by a W. MI dealer and I just left them the box to install. I will try to post some pics.  Based on what everyone is saying, it looks like I need to stop talking about and just raise it a little and test it on the lake. Hopefully the pics will post.

Rob