There are a few boats not yet wrapped and we look to hit the Pond for one last fish. Lets use this thread to gather all the boats and back boaters. This Sunday 27th, 7:45 am at the ramp. Here is the group to date:
Mighty Frank and Mojo
MikeSmiph and Friend
Manxfish and Friend
MarkGoetsch and Bronzeback67
If there's a open back seat I'd be in
My trolling motor batt's are dead
And I'd like to buy fresh ones in the spring
As a plus I know the hot pond well
And I'll be happy to hook up the boater with the perfect bait and rig
I have Saturday off.Have to work Sunday.
Quote from: Mojo on November 22, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
There are a few boats not yet wrapped and we look to hit the Pond for one last fish. Lets use this thread to gather all the boats and back boaters. PM if you are interested. Date is Sunday the 27th out of Bolles Harbor 8 am.
Wow Those are some pigs !!!!
I'm unfamiliar with the Hot Pond. Where is it? If it's in the Detroit metro area, I'd like to hitch a ride in the back of someone's boat.
Its in monroe bolles is off of exit 11 on 75. Put me down as a maybe it depends on several things.
is there access to shore fish. I have always wanted to go and get some photos or the eagles that hang around there and maybe shore fish.
Quote from: dartag on November 23, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
is there access to shore fish. I have always wanted to go and get some photos or the eagles that hang around there and maybe shore fish.
There's shore fishing
There's 2 or 3 public docks, Access would be from Front street
Goggle the Monroe power plant
The "Hot pond" looks like a river on the south side of the plant
it dead ends at Front street
I was under the impression the "hot ponds" were actually a section of the Raisin River? Sure looks like it on the map.
Hi folks. MoJo just called and asked me to come along with the group. Unfortunately my boat is in the shop. I would love to head out though and if someone has a back seat open I will take care of the gas.
Joe
So if I drag my boat from Grand Rapids you'd cover the gas? LOL!! ;D
Just kidding... got a wheel bearing starting to growl on the Tahoe... need to fix that before I take any trips longer than to the grocery store.
Quote from: Manxfishing on November 23, 2011, 01:01:40 PM
Quote from: dartag on November 23, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
is there access to shore fish. I have always wanted to go and get some photos or the eagles that hang around there and maybe shore fish.
There's shore fishing
There's 2 or 3 public docks, Access would be from Front street
Goggle the Monroe power plant
The "Hot pond" looks like a river on the south side of the plant
it dead ends at Front street
The shore sccess I believe closes either Oct. 1st or Nov. 1st. I went down last year at this time and it was shut down
Saturday works for frank mike smiph and I.
Manxfishing can you do Saturday?
Mark? Third boat is all we're looking for.
Quote from: Waterfoul on November 23, 2011, 02:52:56 PM
I was under the impression the "hot ponds" were actually a section of the Raisin River? Sure looks like it on the map.
The Raisin River is on the northerly side of the power plant while the hot ponds are on the southerly side. Plum Creek runs into the hot ponds at the 'elbow.'
Mojo,
I was going to work on Sat
But I've hooked up with a guy at Work that happens to have 2 new trolling batt's
So I can drag my boat there
Plus his Wife works Sun so It's a good day for him
Seems its Sunday. Mikesmph just fixed his schedule. 8am??? you kill me Mojo, lol. ill be ready by 5am, we could get breakfast, or we could just fish in the dark while were waiting. I leave the bar at 330 and if i dont find something to occupy my time im either going to have beer or go to sleep.
Frank
Not to change the subject, but, I watched a Michigan Out of Doors show years ago when Fred Trost was still the host and they filmed an episode somewhere off of Saginaw Bay that was also a hot pond. They were fishing in the middle of winter throwing crankbaits and catching big carp on them one after another. Does anyone know were this could be. It was a backwater area that had a warm water discharge from some sort of plant or factory.
OK so we are on for SUNDAY 7:45.
Mighty Frank and Mojo
MikeSmiph and Veronica plus friend
Manxfish and Friend
Let me know who else to expect - Maybe we could keep our best 3 for fun ?
Ok,
I'm in
Best 3 should go over 15
Hey fellas, would like to throw my name into the hat for sunday as well.
As of right now I have an open seat and wouldnt mind sharing with a fellow GLB'er with some knowlege of the place having never fished there yet. Anyone interested gimme a shout!
Aaron
Quote from: MBFT on November 23, 2011, 07:28:04 PM
Not to change the subject, but, I watched a Michigan Out of Doors show years ago when Fred Trost was still the host and they filmed an episode somewhere off of Saginaw Bay that was also a hot pond. They were fishing in the middle of winter throwing crankbaits and catching big carp on them one after another. Does anyone know were this could be. It was a backwater area that had a warm water discharge from some sort of plant or factory.
Just outside the river mouth around the corner to the East. Been so long I can't remember how I got in there. I imagine it is real interesting to get in their now. Not sure if you can get a big boat in there now? If I can think of someone to ask who might have been in there in recent seasons, I'll check on it. I used to stalk a number of spots in that area in the ancient days. I know one of them is now inaccessible.
Checked one source that says it is 1 foot or less at the mouth and not accessible by a bigger boat unless you get a north wind. Of course, a strong N wind and you probably don't want to be out there. Says it's mostly shore fishing now - a long walk from the end of Jones Rd @ 1/4 mile west.
A long, long time ago I would launch from Jones Rd and drive the ditch out to the bay. Way back, I went to Jones Rd and it was about dry. Nothing but a canoe could 'launch' there. I don't think that has changed. Maybe not even a canoe now with a portage.
Does anyone have an address for the boat launch?
Is there a seat available?
I would really like to check this out.
Quote from: Rocknfish on November 23, 2011, 11:43:29 PM
Hey fellas, would like to throw my name into the hat for sunday as well.
As of right now I have an open seat and wouldnt mind sharing with a fellow GLB'er with some knowlege of the place having never fished there yet. Anyone interested gimme a shout!
Aaron
Aaron, I have never been there either,but if the seat is still open, I would certainly appreciate the ride.
Joe
Quote from: mikesmiph on November 24, 2011, 02:04:34 AM
Does anyone have an address for the boat launch?
Mike
It's exit 11 off of I-75
When you get off the E-way, hang a left cross the E-way and it's on the left
Any ? you have the number, give me a call
If I show up I'll have someone in the boat with me. Just let me know sat. or sun.
Quote from: markgoetsch on November 24, 2011, 08:20:22 AM
If I show up I'll have someone in the boat with me. Just let me know sat. or sun.
"OK so we are on for SUNDAY 7:45."
From above
We'll be there. Weather forecast keeps getting just a little better. 57 and 30% chance of light rain. Now to only hope they know what they are talking about, this time. Thanks Manx, yes I have your number. I'll call if I get lost.
Quote from: BRONZEBACK67 on November 24, 2011, 03:43:06 AM
Quote from: Rocknfish on November 23, 2011, 11:43:29 PM
Hey fellas, would like to throw my name into the hat for sunday as well.
As of right now I have an open seat and wouldnt mind sharing with a fellow GLB'er with some knowlege of the place having never fished there yet. Anyone interested gimme a shout!
Aaron
Aaron, I have never been there either,but if the seat is still open, I would certainly appreciate the ride.
Joe
Hope to see you guys there
If you've never fished the hot pond It's one place you'll walk away from thinking
it's cheating. There's just a ton of good bass
How far is the boat ride from Bolles?
about 1 mile.
Quote from: bigjc on November 24, 2011, 01:36:12 PM
How far is the boat ride from Bolles?
Not far at all
Run out to the last bouy and then start back in towards the hot pond
It's to shallow to just cut over from the launch
The bass fishing is like no other place that I've fished
Big bass this time of the year and there's lot's of them
Catching 20-30 would be a slow day, 50 plus would be avg.
I'm told there's Walleye and big cat's in there as well but i've never targeted them yet
I heard they eat shoelaces in there. Sounds like alot of fun but no challenge at all.
Man, I wish I would have known about this before I volunteered to work all weekend. I would've drug my boat over there for sure. Still not even thinking about winterizing yet. Hot water this time of year holds a dear place in my heart. I have a power plant on Muskegon, just 5 minutes from home. Have fun guys. I will make it next year if you do it again.
Quote from: TCook on November 24, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
I heard they eat shoelaces in there. Sounds like alot of fun but no challenge at all.
They do
That guy on the BBC is a friend of one of my friends
He fishes the hot pond all winter. During hard water he drags a small boat
over the marsh to the hot pond
While the fishing is easy
The challange is getting the bigger fish or more then the other boats
If you what to settle for 2 pounders there every or every other cast
First time there for me
we had some very good advice from some very good people
And it still took me a little time to really get the game going
Best part was my game was nothing like we were told.
You still neeed some skill in there
This year I'd like to try swim baits and maybe DS the deeper water
Stil on - this Sunday 27th, 7:45 am at the ramp. Here is the group to date:
Mighty Frank and Mojo
MikeSmiph and Veronica plus friend
Manxfish and Friend
Rock n Fish and Bronzeback67
MarkGoetsch and Friend
Let me know who else to expect - Maybe we could keep our best 3 for fun ? Ut OH.... We may have enough for a sandbar party ? Does anyone know if there is a park nearby or on the walkway with a grill or picnic tables ? I know we could all pull up to the sandbar near the entrance on the inside and pull up. I can bring chicken and regular brauts and a grill ? Do we want to fish and go or maybe fish and celebrate a great day just behind December ? What time does everyone need to leave ?
One rule, if you are new to the hotpond - you shouldn't, as a gentlemens rules, use this place during the year to pull your tournament fish. Hot Pond has been Catch and Release for many many years. Keeping the big fish in there is what makes the place special so if you show someone new, you should be passing this rule on to them. Plus if its early spring or fall, pulling the fish (which is used to 68 degree water) and then dropping it in 55 or 60 degree water could make the fish suffer. Anyway, use some extra conservation ethics for the Hot Pond .... is all thats requested.
Ugh, why does it have to be on a Sunday? :( :( :(
Wish I could join you fellas. It sounds like a great way to end the season.
Anyone in the Grand Rapids area want to tow my boat over there? Love to go... still need to replace a wheel bearing in the Tahoe though so I can't make the drive with it, and I just don't trust my old Escape to tow it that far.
Quote from: Waterfoul on November 25, 2011, 11:36:49 AM
Anyone in the Grand Rapids area want to tow my boat over there? Love to go... still need to replace a wheel bearing in the Tahoe though so I can't make the drive with it, and I just don't trust my old Escape to tow it that far.
It is across flat land ::)
Quote from: Waterfoul on November 25, 2011, 11:36:49 AM
Anyone in the Grand Rapids area want to tow my boat over there? Love to go... still need to replace a wheel bearing in the Tahoe though so I can't make the drive with it, and I just don't trust my old Escape to tow it that far.
That wheel bearing is an hour fix. Piece of cake. Do it tomorrow and away you go.
Mike, I have family Thanksgiving tomorrow... after I work all day of course. Just haven't had time!!!
Why don't we take your boat!?!? ;D
I have to work tomorrow and Sunday. If I didn't, I would go in a heartbeat. As much as you fish around here, we should get together and beat up some lakes some time.
Got reports in today bad dark muddy chocolate in the morning . 4 boats. Zero fish today. Lake and plant churning mud
Reports at 2 pm says water is clearing up. If you aren't afraid of stain, Manxfishing with friend, frank and I, are still in.
Well,
Every time that I've been there it's been mud
So i'll see you in the morning and will show them the fish still eat in the mud
It's just a matter of what you throw to them
slight chance i might be able to make it, but the radar is showing a ton of rain
Yep,
Looks like there's allot of rain (but I think the bulk will be in the morning)
I own 2 rain suits and I don't melt
It's not going to hurt the fishing
there all ready in the water
For Me
It will be the last outing
I'll have plenty of time to sit on the couch this winter
I'll be there
As of 10:30 Saturday this is what we have:
This Sunday 27th, 7:45 am at the ramp. Pairings:
Mighty Frank and Mojo
MikeSmiph and Friend
Manxfish and Friend
MarkGoetsch and Bronzeback67
Conditions:
Water: 68 F light - med chocolate shad jumping - Lake Erie (inlet to plant) stained but clearing
Weather: 52 - rising to 54 mid day, steady 11 - 13 mph wind S SW and WSW, 1/2 inch rain for the day, thats barely a shower
No big food or picnic tomorrow. BUT this will become a yearly event that I envision us to grow. I see bon fires, grills, music - a party on the sand bar !! I see 25 boats joining us inside 4 years - To celebrate the awesome fishing throughout the Great Lakes. Thats our spirit !!!!!!! Hey - Jobbie Nooner started this way. ;D :o
Mojo,
I dont want to call you this late. As of now, Julia says she wants to go still, but she said she may back out when I get her up at 5:45. That probably doesnt change anything of course. Im excited. Lets just hope my 15' boat can beat those stupid waves. I hate it when we get sunk, then drown, then die. lol
Frank
How did this turn out?
I had a good time dispite getting rained on all day and not catching ONE fish!! Just good to get out one last time before I put the boat away.
Nothing for us
And we threw it all
Heard Mojo had 2 fish jump in the boat. LOL
but I don't think you can count that
Not the best weather conditions today.
How did it go today ? Hmmmm the weather was fine, 50s, wind was fine, nice fog on the water, Erie waves 1-2 ft. Folks need to know if you have a bass boat,.... Go 1000 ft past the last bouy then curl south to the entrance.
The fish were jumpin in the boat today folks, that's a true phrase ! A bass and a shad ! It was the chocolate mess that shut us down. Ohio river brown. Erie west shore for 1/2 mile out.
We plan to go back next Saturday or Sunday first week in December. And Christmas holiday 26th- 30th. Pm if you are interested.
Mojo
I'm not sure Ive ever had more fun Not catching fish. Seriously, this is such a great bunch of people on this website. I have a blast every time we get together. As was said, the water looked like chocolate milk. It was warm though, about 62 degs most of the time. Like most of the other guys, I threw everything at them. The only things I had any action on was dropshotting a Nemesis gobie. Got some real hard taps, but nothing would commit. Not even sure if they were bass. The weather was fine, never rained hard until we were back at the launch. We found a real nice place to eat down the street. Bolles Harbor Food and Ale, or something like that. Please pay attention to what Mojo said about the last buoy. I have the bent up prop to prove it. Very lucky I dont have a busted lower unit. Surprised the boat would still get up on plane after all the damage, but its only a prop. Not sure if my boat will be back this year, might have to put it away. Thanks to the guys who organized this. I look forward to many more trips down there.
I haven't been there for several years but I remember that you also need to stay off the left side when approaching the entrance to the area. I was really worried driving into there one time and played it safe by running way out into the lake, then I whacked the sandbar right at the entrance. Luckily it only damaged the prop a little. That's too bad the fishing wasn't better, I wonder if it is still recovering from the fish kill last winter?
no there are still plenty of bass in there that I've caught this year. Just one of those days I guess but I did have a couple bite and one break off so I did have a few opportunities.
I had a great time. I was able to meet some new people and see a different part of lake Erie. For late November the weather couldn't have been much better. Special thanks to Mark G for letting me share the boat with him yesterday.
And of course, MoJo for setting this up.
Glad you had a fun day of fishing. I thought you had more rain. You really were lucky. It rained here most of the day at 'GLBass HQ' in Lansing. Must have been the chocolate water then.
how is the best way to learn when the mud is gone - without having to travel there ?
Look at the satelite and track the wind at least a week in advance to see if it has been blowing from the East. Between the wind churning it up and the Maumee River dumping mud in , that area is just about always dirty. Also keep in mind that that little pond gets hammered repeatedly without let-up by many locals as soon as fall approaches.
Here's the sites that you need watch for the Mud
http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/modis.cgi/modis?region=e&page=1
And here's a couple for the wind
you can look up the past wind dir. and speed here
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=thlo1
And here's the best wind forcast
http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/stony_point
(stoney point is the tip of Brest bay or SSP)
All the links you need are on one page on here - www.greatlakesbass.com/weather/
Quote from: Mojo on November 28, 2011, 01:50:56 AM
How did it go today ? Hmmmm the weather was fine, 50s, wind was fine, nice fog on the water, Erie waves 1-2 ft. Folks need to know if you have a bass boat,.... Go 1000 ft past the last bouy then curl south to the entrance.
The fish were jumpin in the boat today folks, that's a true phrase ! A bass and a shad ! It was the chocolate mess that shut us down. Ohio river brown. Erie west shore for 1/2 mile out.
We plan to go back next Saturday or Sunday first week in December. And Christmas holiday 26th- 30th. Pm if you are interested.
Mojo
Hmmm, Saturday is my aniversary, so that would get me into a lot of trouble, but Sunday would not be out of the question for me. I have put my bass boat away, but the crestliner is easy enough to winterize again, that it could be an option.
I have the 11th off.