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Title: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: dartag on October 22, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
Just watched FLW live and all the leaders are using the Alabama rig.  you can rig 5 baits on it.  would it be legal in michigan.   What will them southern boys think of next.


http://thealabamarig.com/
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: FishermanJohn on October 22, 2011, 08:36:46 PM
Don't know if it is legal here or not (I can't think of anything particular in the rules saying otherwise) but I'm imagining that thing on St. Clair after the wolfpack smallies!   ;D
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: bigjc on October 22, 2011, 09:36:15 PM
hhhmmmm, that is very interesting.  I guess its worth a try.  Could be killer on schooling fish.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Manxfishing on October 23, 2011, 09:16:15 AM
It's worth a try

As far as being legal
In Michigan you can fish 5 hooks on one rod
I know Ohio is 3 hooks and I think Canada is 3 as well

Well
I checked
In Michigan it's 3 lines (rods) but no more then 6 hooks total
(they count a lure or crawler harness as one hook)
So in michigan it's a legal rig

Bought one
There back order only and there not cheap




Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: dartag on October 23, 2011, 01:13:56 PM
One of the guys said it was 50.00 for the rig and baits he was using.  He was using 65lb braid so he could get it back if it hung up. 
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Manxfishing on October 23, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
With the rig alone costing 25 bucks and then there's 5 baits
You could have 5 bucks in every bait for 50 bucks

And down south
Don't they fish 65# braid on half of what they throw?











Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: bigjc on October 23, 2011, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Manxfishing on October 23, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
And down south
Don't they fish 65# braid on half of what they throw?

Yeah, until drop shottin' became popular, many southern anglers had no use for a spinning rod.  I fished with a guy in AR, who was a guide on Bull Shoals, and he didn't even have a spinning rod in the boat. 












Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
I just got off the phone with my Alabama brother-in-law and he's going to go to my favorite bait shop in Alabama, West End, and see if they don't have a couple of A-rigs on the shelf. He's coming up for gun season so maybe I'll have one to look at soon.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: TCook on October 24, 2011, 01:51:35 PM
No way your buddy will find you any down there, no doubt everyone who carries them are sold out by now. There is already a 5 week wait through the company. Just a matter of time before there are plenty of knockoffs out there I will just have to stay patient with this one. I think Nemesis should get on top of this for us local guys. This bait is the real deal and will dominate for the next couple years when the bass are offshore chasing bait.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: HellaBass on October 24, 2011, 04:53:21 PM
Quite the rig, not legal in MN and would have to reduce to 3 in WI, but interesting concept
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on October 25, 2011, 02:04:07 AM
It'd be confusing up here in the Great Lakes region with all varied regulations - especially on places like St. Clair and Erie. I'll probably get around to trying it eventually. I'm way behind on trying new stuff already!
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: TCook on October 25, 2011, 11:30:49 AM
Very good article on the Alabama rig

http://blog.wired2fish.com/blog/bid/66380/Bass-Fishing-Opinion-Lasting-Implications-of-the-Alabama-Rig
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Waterfoul on October 25, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
I for one hope this thing fades.  Or better yet... Michigan decides that it is not legal (seem like it is though).  I do not have the funds to buy these things or keep them rigged.  $50 a crack fully rigged?!?!?!?!?  No way am I paying that.  Then there's the sad fact that I could never throw this heavy bait for more than a short amount of time.  Thanks to a stroke and arthritis in both hands there is no way I could do it.

Call it selfish, but that's how I feel about the Alabama Rig.

We'll wait to see if BASS and FLW continue to allow anglers to use them in their tournaments.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: dartag on October 25, 2011, 04:59:57 PM
I can't see cost being an issue.  Look at what luckycraft baits or swimbaits cost.  check out  Brians Prop Bee - $27.75 each.   Those with $$ will have them.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Manxfishing on October 25, 2011, 05:40:45 PM
It's interesting that at first I thought the benefit was its rig for catching schooling fish
And maybe multiple fish

After reading the article
Most of the guys throwing the rig thought the benefit was
Big bass were conditioned not to hit or chase single baits for the reason of being caught
But they would hit schools of fish (the rig). It's some thing that they haven't seen yet

It will be interesting to see if it's banned or the fish become conditioned not to hit the rig

Cost wise, I don't see it has a issue if it catches fish
But throwing a 3-5 oz rig will detour a few folks
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Waterfoul on October 25, 2011, 06:59:09 PM
those of you who dont think it's espensive must have more disposable income than I do.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on October 25, 2011, 07:01:23 PM
Depends on what types of water you fish most often and what level of tournament competition you are in too.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: TCook on October 25, 2011, 07:26:46 PM
Sounds like most pros were throwing it on 65-80lb braid and the hooks would bend before the braid would break when snagged. In this case you would never lose the rig therefore it would not be expensive in the long run. Not to mention I think most scenarios the rig would work is on suspended fish in open deep water where snags are very unlikely. Would be more expensive to throw tube jigs for a weekend on St Clair or Erie.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: dartag on October 25, 2011, 07:48:29 PM
Bet there are a lot of copies being made today.  Kind of like Biffle hard head.   Think i will order some stainless wire and swivels. 
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: thedude on October 26, 2011, 01:07:09 PM
theres dudes on BBC trying to get 100$-200$ a pop for one of them. lol
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: dartag on October 26, 2011, 01:19:41 PM
searched on umbrella rigs and found out you can buy blank rigs for about 5-6.00 each     even BPS sells them.   Guess they are popular with striper fishermen.   they are comparing it to the Chatterbait craze of a couple years ago.     
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: TCook on October 26, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: thedude on October 26, 2011, 01:07:09 PM
theres dudes on BBC trying to get 100$-200$ a pop for one of them. lol

Holy Cannoli!  :o

http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=737574
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: dartag on October 26, 2011, 04:48:53 PM
Quote from: TCook on October 26, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: thedude on October 26, 2011, 01:07:09 PM
theres dudes on BBC trying to get 100$-200$ a pop for one of them. lol

Holy Cannoli!  :o

http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=737574

gee wonder why he didn't ask 1000.00 each.  Reminds me of the Cabbage Patch Kids at x-mas a few years ago.  As PT said.

"There's a sucker born every minute."
― P.T. Barnum
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Manxfishing on October 26, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
Wowzer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And to think there's a PM sent at that price




Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on October 26, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Maybe the PM was: 'DUDE are you crazy?!?'

But probably not. Us bass anglers have a disease ;D
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on October 26, 2011, 09:58:33 PM
Quote from: dartag on October 26, 2011, 01:19:41 PM
searched on umbrella rigs and found out you can buy blank rigs for about 5-6.00 each     even BPS sells them.   Guess they are popular with striper fishermen.   they are comparing it to the Chatterbait craze of a couple years ago.     

Umbrella rigs are much heavier and a lot longer in general. Someone could cast the smaller ones all day at 2 ounces but I think you'd want to shorten the wire arms. Might be worth a try.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on October 27, 2011, 06:01:51 PM
So who's going to be the first GLBass member to own and throw an Alabama Rig?
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Manxfishing on October 27, 2011, 06:28:07 PM
Well,

I ordered one last week
And then it was a 2 week back order

I have the swim baits and jigs
But I don't see when I'll be able to get out and try it this year
So i'm out till next year

Need to spool ip a reel in 65# braid as well
I'm thinking the 7'-6" frog rod is going to work perfect

Better then who's the first to throw the rig
Who's going to be the first to catch a fish on it?









Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on October 27, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
Well, it would seem like you just throw it out and you'll catch tons of big bass on it right away!! ;D
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: bigjc on October 27, 2011, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: djkimmel on October 27, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
Well, it would seem like you just throw it out and you'll catch tons of big bass on it right away!! ;D

Are you willing to guarantee that?  Cause I have yet to catch a big bass on a swim bait.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on October 27, 2011, 10:25:03 PM
No guarantees offered... though there are a few sneaky members catching some big bass on swim baits lurking around.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Frank on October 28, 2011, 06:40:55 PM
these are not new.  they have been around for years for salt water fishing.  often the only bait with a hook is the one in the back, the front ones are teasers.  look them up on ebay.  they are as cheap as $7.  there are a lot of different options out there.

Frank
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: YpsiBass on November 04, 2011, 04:20:48 PM
Looks like [REMOVED - see No Links Policy List (http://www.greatlakesbass.com/forum/index.php?topic=11129.0)] is selling something similar now.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Cheetam on November 04, 2011, 06:42:44 PM
Has any one confirmed with the MI DNR if these are even legal to use in Michigan?
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Waterfoul on November 04, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
Quote from: Cheetam on November 04, 2011, 06:42:44 PM
Has any one confirmed with the MI DNR if these are even legal to use in Michigan?

That sounds like a question for our resident "knows the rules guy.  Mr. Kimmel... a ruling please???
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on November 05, 2011, 02:26:01 AM
I've heard rumors of other people calling but I figured I'll have to contact the Lansing spokesperson and ask. Might not be a quick process because their are a number of positions 'acting as' right now in the MDNR. Lots of personnel loss lately unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: dartag on November 05, 2011, 07:17:26 AM
Hey Cheetam get working on them custom painted rigs.  I can already see one rigged with   1/2 senkos.   
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Waterfoul on November 05, 2011, 11:54:00 AM
So Dan... are you saying there will be some personel changes that might result in some rules changes?  How about we work on making drop shotting LEGAL on the lakeshore lakes of Lake Michigan between the opening of bass season and Sept. 1st???  Or just make it legal all the time but with a max of 1 hook point (no trebbles) no bigger than size 2/0?   Or something like that.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on November 05, 2011, 02:43:44 PM
I think there are possibilities there. It just needs someone who can take the time to make some phone calls and write some letters. Maybe attend a meeting or two. It might take a little longer right now because of some of the changes and cuts going through the MDNR lately.

It is on my to do list but right now I'm having to concentrate on getting more web work. I do believe it is doable. I just don't have the time to dedicate to it right now. I think it will be less work too after some of the 'acting' positions are filled by permanent person within the MDNR too. Probably be another year unless someone else can step up and take it on? It need to be started about 6 - 9 months minimum before the next fishing season starts (April 1).
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: Waterfoul on November 05, 2011, 04:44:01 PM
Dan, let's talk next week.
Title: Re: The Alabama Rig???
Post by: djkimmel on November 05, 2011, 10:05:55 PM
Ok