This may have been ecplained before. I was rereading the 2007-2008 MDNR rules for fishing and noticed somthing I had never really paid attention to.
Dropshotting using a main line mounted hook above a weight is illegal in Drownded River Mouths. They list Muskegeon, White and Pentwater among others. Are they refering to the lakes, or am I reading it wrong?
They are refering to the lake. Most people get around this buy using a jig on the bottom for a weight. I also know a couple guys who just don't worry about it. I asked a CO directly about this and he said the law is aimed at salmon snaggers and any bass fisherman fishing the dropshot in the drowned river mouth lakes would not be hassled. I guess if you wanted to get really technical about it the upper hook is supposed to be on a leader with a minimum length of 3" (I think). If you do this you don't need to use anything other than a weight/sinker on the bottom.
Drop shot is illegal in inland rivers and the west side drowned river mouths. The only way to be legal on those waters is to use the 3" dropper.
As long as you aren't snagging or in a tournament, I wouldn't expect any CO to ticket you, but they could if something else drove them to it.
The story behind this, and the details are all on the Conservation board below if you ever feel like reading them.
So the impoundments in portland and lansing on the grand river you would need a dropper?
Quote from: Berkley on February 01, 2008, 02:14:35 PM
So the impoundments in portland and lansing on the grand river you would need a dropper?
Yes.
Great answer :)
Nothing more difinitive than a one word answer. Yes. No. Leaves nothing to argue about! LOL!!! Now, if it only worked on kids...... :'(
Good luck with that!!!
Quote from: djkimmel on February 03, 2008, 01:18:15 PM
Good luck with that!!!
For my girlfriends daughter (4 1/2 yo) the most dreaded words are:
"Time for bed"
This always, 100% of the time evokes the "but I'm not tired" response. YES you are. NO I'm not. Here is where those two words colide on a cosmic scale!!! LOL!!
But back to the tipic on hand.
Think of drop shotting this way: River, use a dropper. A lake with a pier system that leads to one of the Great Lakes, use a dropper (there are a few exceptions to this). Inland lake... fish away!!!
I am glad that dropshotting is legal now, but the DNR needs to simplify things more.... again it is the Few(salmon poachers) that make it tough for the many.
That is exactly why the CO's won't bother a guy sitting on the bow of his bass boat in the middle of the summer drop shotting a weed edge.
But we all know getting the DNR to change anything is a time consuming act of attrition that has no chance of success in most cases.
Quote from: Waterfoul on February 02, 2008, 09:12:16 PM
Now, if it only worked on kids...... :'(
My two kids look at me with that "I no speaka de english" look when I say NO. It's like I am speaking Greek to them or something. And yes, kids can easily argue a one word answer like "NO".
BD ;D
It's worse when they answer you with NO. "Go to bed." NO. I hate that kids won't got to bed when you tell them to! My girfriends daughter is terrible at going to bed. Go to bed kid so I can fool around with your mom!!! LOL!!! Part of the problem is grandma NEVER tells her NO.
Now, back to Drop Shotting.... Did I mention I got a new DS rod for this upcoming season? Did I mention I can't wait for this ice to go away!!!
No
Quote from: Waterfoul on February 07, 2008, 01:30:41 AM
Go to bed kid so I can fool around with your mom!!!
2008 quote of the year so far. That ones gonna be tough to top!
McCarter himself :-\'
Glad I could give you a chuckle. :D
And no, I wasn't kidding!!! ;D
Maybe... but I'm trying to decide if I need to edit it or not??? I don't want any of the kids on here to have nightmares!?!
Hey now... I'm a nice guy!!! ;D
You are right about that. Tough one to top. I would like to be a fly on the wall when Waterfoul tries that one. Face it DK these kids are already having night mares because we on this forum are their parents. And if they are old enough to type blogs then they are old enough to realize the stork had nothing to do with it. It all comes down to "bumping uglies". :P Funny how a dropshotting forum turned to kids saying "NO" among other things..............
Anyway back to dropshotting.............when is spring going to spring!!!! ;)
BD ;D
Well since her daughter is not yet 5 years old, I'm not too worried that she will be joining this forum anytime soon! LOL!!! And her mother doesn't know about this site (yet?) so I'm safe for now!!
So I picked up some BPS brand florocarbon, 10 lb. Has anyone tried this line on their drop shot rig?? After buying it I'm told that Gamma makes the floro for BPS. I didn't like the Gamma floro... is this BPS going to be the same??
I used XPS fluoro a couple of years ago and I liked it.
Most people seem to like the XPS. I had not heard about Gamma making it, but it is possible. Someone is making it for them. The past XPS I tried did not seem like Gamma, but that is always subject to change.
Quote from: djkimmel on February 21, 2008, 12:56:06 AM
Most people seem to like the XPS. I had not heard about Gamma making it, but it is possible. Someone is making it for them. The past XPS I tried did not seem like Gamma, but that is always subject to change.
Now I'm being told by another (on the pro staff with Gamma) that they do NOT make the XPS line. So maybe this will be THE line for me?? :D
never thought i'd see the day when Mike "Gamma Rules" Ozinga strayed to another brand ;D
Quote from: thedude on February 22, 2008, 08:44:15 PM
never thought i'd see the day when Mike "Gamma Rules" Ozinga strayed to another brand ;D
Dude.... NO last names! Gotta protect the insolent!! Or is it innocent? No matter....
Actually... if I wanna fish MONO I throw Gamma Co-polymer instead... and I really only do that on salmon and steelie gear now. In fact... I just picked up 2 spools of Halo at Al and Bob's
Customer Appreciation Sale Thursday... 10% off plus a $6 rebate. Plan on putting it on a couple of my spinning reels that have braid on them and see how it works for me.... Came highly recommended.
I'm still using mono............. 8)
BD ;D
First of all Gamma does not make XPS. Gamma is altered at the molecular level to be twined like rope and it gives it superior strength and less memory. I've used it ever since the Grand Rapids Ultimate Fishing Show a few years back and I'm using pretty much 4 and 6 pound test now because of its strength at a smaller diameter. Also, 1-Jav you talked me into joining this site again too, now to balance both quickly in my spare time lol Nice seeing you at D and R
Quote from: UAWBigDog on February 24, 2008, 07:58:50 PM
I'm still using mono............. 8)
BD ;D
You keep on using mono... it's nice to keep the competition in the dark on what is better these days!!
QuoteYou keep on using mono... it's nice to keep the competition in the dark on what is better these days!!
What do you mean Waterfoul?? I am not taking it like you are bashing me for maybe using what some people may consider obsolete. I guess I miss your point. Please explain.........
I guess I keep using mono because I am not convinced that any of these super lines are any better than mono. I believe that I still can put fish in the boat and not risk any more breakoffs than a guy using super line. In other words, when I went out to Askin's Point that day last fall with Mojo and Revtro, I caught over fifty (50) quality smallies that day. My best five would have been over 20lbs. I don't actually know what Revtro and Mojo were using for line but there are a lot of other factors to what puts fish in the boat. It is not all in the line as I know you well know. If they were using any of the superlines and we could ask them, did they catch any more fish or any less fish than I did. They went deep and I went shallow after we fished in the same are for a couple of hours. When I went shallow, I was on them for the rest of the day. They didn't catch anything deep. I caught them shallow from the time I got to the spot until I left them at 1330 hours that day. I don't know how they did after I left but they could have caught just as many as I did in the same time. ??? So now tell me what makes one line better than the other because I am not convinced that super lines are any better than mono. ??? Just my thoughts. ??? I don't have a fishing line sponsor and maybe not being convinced is why I have never pursued one.
BD ;D
All tongue-in-cheek :)
I started drop shotting with mono at the beginning of last season. Caught some fish. Then I switched to floro and although it is more sensitive I just couldn't handle the line twist issues it brought on. So I switched to a light poundage braid (12 or 14 lb I believe... I'd have to look at the package... but VERY thin line) with a 6' floro leader and I definitely noticed my catch rate went up. The line is sooooo sensitive you can feel a fish breath on the bait! I know I'm catching more fish using this method. But that's just me. I would never tell anyone what line the HAVE to use. If you like mono by all means keep throwing it.
I just figured that if you and I ever met in a tourney I believe I would have the advantage with the more sensitive line. The only rod I use mono on for a tourney is my spinnerbait rod. I just like braided line I guess. ;D
Quote from: Waterfoul on March 28, 2008, 07:22:30 PM
I just figured that if you and I ever met in a tourney I believe I would have the advantage with the more sensitive line. The only rod I use mono on for a tourney is my spinnerbait rod. I just like braided line I guess. ;D
Only if the bite was tough...............maybe................ 8)
BD ;D