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Title: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: Andy on October 31, 2007, 10:49:58 AM
Ok guys, I have a LMS 350a this unit is 10 years old and is showing its age. The screen on the unit has a fog almost milky color to it. I have herd of foks cleaning the screens but how thay do it I dont know. Now I also have the same unit that will not turn on but it has a very clear screen. Is there a way to clean up the screen or is there a way to open up the units and swap out the screens.
Also is there a way one can reboot or reformat these units?????
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                               Thanks Andy
Title: Re: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: Slipkey on October 31, 2007, 01:01:12 PM
Andy,

Based on your description, I'm not entirely sure of the nature of the discoloration.

Is it condensation, by any chance?  If so, unhooking the unit and putting it outside for a few hours, with the sun shining directly on the screen, should burn off the moisture.

If it's not condensation,  the problem is a bit more tricky.  You can switch out the screen on the unit by removing the screws (I can't remember if the 350 uses small phillips or hex screws) from the back of the unit, disassembling, and swapping out the parts, but you need to be very careful.

You will lose a measure of waterproofing on the unit if you disassemble since you will break the seal used to waterproof during the initial assembly.  You also need to be very careful putting the unit back together since things are tightly packed.  Make sure your cable connections are lined up and that they re-seal properly. 

It's very unusual for the inside of the screen to get any discoloration apart from condensation.  If it is something besides condensation, it may be a sign that the unit is no longer waterproof and that corrosion is occurring somewhere on the main board.

FYI, the plastic screen on your unit can easily be cleaned with a product like Meguiar's Clear Plastic Cleaner (http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Glaze-Plastic-Cleaner-oz/dp/B000WZY09U/ref=sr_1_3/002-0293999-4489654?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1193849825&sr=8-3) and a soft cloth like a cotton dish towel.
Title: Re: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: Andy on October 31, 2007, 02:53:07 PM
It is not on the inside it is on the outside of the outer screen. I have tryed the Meguiars with limmited success. Im not sure but could this be reel bad sun fade.
As I look at the unit there are no screws showing on the unit anywere.
Title: Re: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: Slipkey on October 31, 2007, 10:54:17 PM
It is not on the inside it is on the outside of the outer screen. I have tryed the Meguiars with limmited success. Im not sure but could this be reel bad sun fade.
As I look at the unit there are no screws showing on the unit anywere.

Hmm.  The 350 must be a friction-fit case, then.  Sorry.  That's even worse to try and disassemble.  You might not be able to swap out screens without serious damage to the housing. Since the fogginess is on the outside, let me ask a couple more questions.  I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase, but:

1. Can you scratch the foggy layer at all with your fingernail or thin it out?

2. Does the discoloration feel rough compared to the clear areas?

Based on your answers above I have a couple of ideas that may work:

- If you can scratch the foggy layer off at all or thin it with your fingernail, take a paper towel and soak it in vinegar.  Lay the paper towel out on the screen and rub it flat onto the screen so that it is flush against the entire plastic screen.  Let it sit for about 10-15 minutes.  Remove the paper towel, wipe clean, and repeat if necessary.

- If the surface doesn't scratch but is rough to the touch, Zymol (http://zymol.com/) makes a product called HD Cleanse which is the best fiberglass/paint/plastic restorer I've ever seen.  You can find it at some Auto Zone stores and a few other auto parts shops.  They just started making a "Screen and Lens Clean" product too but I haven't tried it and it looks like it's pretty much the same thing HD Cleanse.    You can try applying it solo and see if it is able to restore the plastic.  I've used it on motorcycle helmets and GPS screens with great success in the past.  Use it by itself first.

If the above fails, a last resort may be to wet-sand the screen edges using 1500 grit sandpaper, finishing with 2000 grit and buffing to a shine with the HD Cleanse. A friend of mine used it to successfully restore the wind-screens on his 82 Ranger to like-new but it would be a bit trickier on a GPS screen since you can't apply much pressure to buff out the fine scratches that the sandpaper makes.  It's a slow process and I'd recommend it only if you really want to spend the time doing it.

Also, I missed your question on reformatting eariler.  You can do what's called a "Preset" on the unit which restores everything back to the factory settings but leaves your waypoints intact by doing the following:

"Press the MENU key until the “Preset Sonar and GPS”
label appears. Press the key next to that label. The menu screen
disappears and the LMS-350A returns to the GPS position screen. All
units will be returned to their factory settings."
Title: Re: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: Andy on November 01, 2007, 10:28:08 AM
Thanks I will try them two and see what happens. I reely do not want to open up the case only as the last resort.

Thanks again and I will let ya know of the outcome.      Andy
Title: Re: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: REEL_MAN on November 02, 2007, 06:52:16 AM
Andy,

I have a used 350A that I replaced a couple of years ago for my brother in law. He didn't want it and I sure don't need it. I can make you a VERY VERY Very good deal on it. If you can't get the screen cleaned on our present unit PM me with your address and I'll just send it to you.

REEL_MAN
Title: Re: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: Andy on November 19, 2007, 08:53:05 AM
Well Slipkey:
 You Rock the vinager thing worked VERY WELL Got all of the what ever was on my screen off. It took 4 trys but it all came off. Finished it off with some Meguires and good as new. Once again a BIG THANKYOU ---  Andy
Title: Re: Lowrance LMS 350a help
Post by: Slipkey on November 19, 2007, 05:11:13 PM
Andy.  You're welcome.  Glad to help. :)