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General Topics, Questions & Support => Free-for-all => Topic started by: blakstr1 on January 24, 2006, 07:43:38 AM

Poll
Question: Will Joey Harrington be a starter in the NFL for the 2006-2007 season?
Option 1: yes votes: 0
Option 2: no votes: 0
Option 3: won't be in the NFL votes: 0
Title: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on January 24, 2006, 07:43:38 AM
A little poll about Joey, where will his talent take him?

Also if anybody has a prediction for what team he'll play for next year add it here.


*POLL AND POST MOVED*
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: dhuff on January 24, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
Ha Ha.  That gave me a good laugh. 
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Skulley on January 29, 2006, 01:30:01 PM
What a laugh......just like the Lions season. 

BD     ;D
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: fales on January 29, 2006, 01:49:03 PM
Going on with the lions stuff what do you guys think they should do with millen and who they should pick in the draft. Mt personal opinion is to get rid of millen and then trade up to get matt leinart or vince young.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Skulley on January 29, 2006, 05:20:35 PM
Fire Millen.  They fired the wrong guy when they fired Mariucci.  Give this new guy a shot now.  Too late to fire Millen.  If this new coach can't get it done in 3 years.......Fire 'em both.


BD      ;D
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: yukonjack2 on January 29, 2006, 05:20:48 PM
I would rather see Ford sell the team to someone comitted to a winning attitude - millen is in a bad spot there not in control of the purse strings -

I do not think wasting a high pick on a qb is the answer - look at their history - Joey can throw ok with time.   Jones can run with blocking - and they probably have 2 pro-bowl receivers if not 3 with the right conditions - reminds me of the 90's. 

I think they should use the high pick for the defensive MLB from Tx - can't remember his name offhand right now, and then draft spped for the secondary - always a pevebial problem in Detroit .  Any additional off lineman is always a plus as well.

Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: dhuff on January 29, 2006, 07:59:30 PM
What does any team in the NFL that has a great passing or a great running game have?  BLOCKING!  The lions don't have any of that.  I am not saying Joey is good or anything.  I am just saying that I don't care who you put in there with the line they have they will never get to the playoffs let alone a super bowl.  I would like to see a better QB though.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: MBell on January 29, 2006, 09:11:34 PM
Your right about the blocking, I didn't expect it to be this bad this year.  Looks lke Stocker McDougle was way better than most people thought.  There was one nice thing about this year, they looked so bad early that I gave up on them about two weeks earleir than normal and was able to fish a little more. 
-Matt
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Savage on January 29, 2006, 09:22:27 PM
Can't believe Millen kept his job through that whole mess, but he is not the core problem.? When you want to know whta's wrong with the Lions, it's just like their catchy jingle says:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??  "THINK FORD FIRST"

Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on January 29, 2006, 10:50:57 PM
Games are won or lost at the line of scrimmage...that said, get some lineman for Pete's sake!  Runningbacks have poor games when the line is pushed two yards back every snap and quarterbacks can't throw (thus WRs can't catch) when they're lying on their backs or being pressured every down...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on February 08, 2006, 08:46:58 AM
huh..anybody else noticed how many EX-Lions play for Pittsburgh???  JEFF HARTINGS going to the probowl again, need I say more?
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on February 10, 2006, 07:07:41 AM
Well with the hiring of Mike Martz, will the Lions be the next Greatest Show on Turf??? or will it be the same old CIRCUS???

Here's a non-fishing poll for you guys..

WHAT TEAM WILL JOEY HARRINGTON BE ON FOR THE 2006-2007 SEASON??
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on February 10, 2006, 09:14:54 AM
Joey will stay with the Lions...even with his big roster bonus and salary for the year.  They can't afford to lose him (as silly as it sounds) because they would then be down two quarterbacks (with Garcia leaving) with only a second year guy left on the roster.  There aren't too many QB free agents available to fill 2 spots on the roster, and there is no guarantee that the 2 QBs would fit into the West Coast scheme.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 10, 2006, 08:37:27 AM
i see where the Lions made another stellar signing..QB Shaun King!??  #%$!  he didn't even play in the NFL last year... :P  I guess they are interviewing Pat Ramsey from the 'Skins though...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 14, 2006, 02:54:10 PM
Okay help me with this one....

Culpepper to the Dolphins

Brees to the Saints

and the Lions get .....  Kitna?   >:(
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on March 14, 2006, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: blakstr1 on March 14, 2006, 02:54:10 PM
Okay help me with this one....

Culpepper to the Dolphins

Brees to the Saints

and the Lions get .....? Kitna?? ?>:(
Culpepper= Huge roster bonus, tore up knee, and bad relationship with new coach in Minnesota

Brees= tore up shoulder, #1 pick in the draft sitting on the bench in SD

Kitna= a solid back-up to Joey in 06-07...I wouldn't doubt if he wins the starting job.  He was a solid starter in Cincy before they put Palmer in charge.  He has a good arm and is pretty accurate...Chad Johnson's break-out year came with Kitna tossing him the rock...Put it this way, it could be worse  :o
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 14, 2006, 09:28:32 PM
thanks Jeff, i was spitting and sputtering about this but you eased my pain...let's take in a game next year, get a group of us together...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on March 14, 2006, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: blakstr1 on March 14, 2006, 09:28:32 PM
thanks Jeff, i was spitting and sputtering about this but you eased my pain...let's take in a game next year, get a group of us together...
I'm in Blake...I have a good little area for free parking and tailgating, and it's only a 5 minute walk from the stadium.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 15, 2006, 08:18:58 AM
I put this on my Outlook calendar to remind me in July and August, then we'll find a good date to go...i never made a game last year, i usually make one or two a year at least...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: McCarter on March 15, 2006, 08:36:32 AM
I heard a rumor this morning on Drew and Mike that Herrington is leaving Detroit.  Something about not being happy in Detroit and not getting along well with the new management.

Anyone else hear this?

PoorBoy himself :-\'
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on March 15, 2006, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: PoorBoy on March 15, 2006, 08:36:32 AM
I heard a rumor this morning on Drew and Mike that Herrington is leaving Detroit.? Something about not being happy in Detroit and not getting along well with the new management.

Anyone else hear this?

PoorBoy himself :-\'
There's always rumors...who knows.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Revtro on March 15, 2006, 04:43:33 PM
I've heard that rumor also, but it's likely just a rumor.  However, something smells fishy with them signing Kitna.  I can't see a scenario where they wouldn't have told him that he'd have a legitimate shot at being a starter here.  That being said, it casts doubt on the earlier news conference where Millen said that Joey is the starter.  I have a funny feeling Joey will be a part of a trade deal soon.  It's just a hunch.  I just don't trust the news conferences any more.  We'll see what happens.  I'd love to go to a game this year, but I be too po.  At these prices, I can't swing it.   :(
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: yukonjack2 on March 15, 2006, 06:47:43 PM
the rumor is true - Joey is going going gone!  thank God!  He'll be gone by 6/15 before his $4 MM signing roster bonus kicks in.

Kitna's the starter, and King(a Tulane Grad BTW-GO WAVE) will be the back up.

Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: yukonjack2 on March 15, 2006, 06:48:42 PM
Almost  forgot - I'm in for a game as well -
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on March 15, 2006, 11:39:31 PM
Joey says "Cut me or Trade Me"...apparently he didn't do well in Mike Martz's QB mini-camp.  I can't wait to see how this one pans out...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Revtro on March 16, 2006, 11:45:01 AM
That's funny.  Just after I made my post, this hit the news wires.  So I guess this time around the rumors were true.  Whodathunkit?  I had a feeling though that Kitna was brought here to start.  He seems like a great guy, but he has had average numbers over his career.  It makes me wonder now what happened with Joey during the camp?  Or was it obvious to him that Kitna was here to compete for his job and he simply has had enough of this organization?  Either way, as much as I like Joey, it's a good thing that he's moving on.  He lost the locker room a long time ago.  Too bad, he had a lot of promise coming out college.  It'll be interesting to see if he becomes a reliable QB elsewhere, or if he becomes a career backup.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on March 16, 2006, 12:48:50 PM
Check out Kitna's 2003 stats (his last year as the starter in Cincy)...I'd say they were much better than average.  26 TDs, 15 INTs, 3500+ yards...That's pretty darn good.  With the talent we have at receiver, he could shine here (he had 37 receptions of 20 yards that year, along with 11 over 40...and that was with only one good receiver!)...oh the possibilities...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: smbassman on March 16, 2006, 12:56:24 PM
I am not much of a Lions fan and only caught a few games last year, but I mut say that good QB's are a result of good Off. lines.  If the Lions don't fix that part of their organization, it won't matter who they have hiking the ball.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: MBell on March 16, 2006, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: jcheetam on March 16, 2006, 12:48:50 PM
Check out Kitna's 2003 stats (his last year as the starter in Cincy)...I'd say they were much better than average.? 26 TDs, 15 INTs, 3500+ yards...That's pretty darn good.? With the talent we have at receiver, he could shine here (he had 37 receptions of 20 yards that year, along with 11 over 40...and that was with only one good receiver!)...oh the possibilities...

You must have missed the playoff game against Pittsburgh.  Kitna brought that high powered offense to a screething halt single handedly.  We're never going to have a quarterback, I wish they would quit wasting picks on the offenseive skill positions and buid up the o-line and defense.  Joeys gone for sure now, at least McKown actually has an upside. 
-Matt
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on March 16, 2006, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: MBell on March 16, 2006, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: jcheetam on March 16, 2006, 12:48:50 PM
Check out Kitna's 2003 stats (his last year as the starter in Cincy)...I'd say they were much better than average.? 26 TDs, 15 INTs, 3500+ yards...That's pretty darn good.? With the talent we have at receiver, he could shine here (he had 37 receptions of 20 yards that year, along with 11 over 40...and that was with only one good receiver!)...oh the possibilities...

You must have missed the playoff game against Pittsburgh.? Kitna brought that high powered offense to a screething halt single handedly.? We're never going to have a quarterback, I wish they would quit wasting picks on the offenseive skill positions and buid up the o-line and defense.? Joeys gone for sure now, at least McKown actually has an upside.?
-Matt
Oh, I saw it...Palmer going down after only playing 2 or three downs was the reason the offense came to a halt...You can't expect a guy (Kitna) to come in cold off the bench (especially after not starting a game all season) and excel...in a playoff game nonetheless!? You could see it in every Cincy player's face that their chances to win left the game when Palmer did...My point is things could be a whole lot worse than Kitna.? I do agree, though that a solid O-line would be nice...And McCown...now that dude can sling the ball...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Revtro on March 16, 2006, 05:48:01 PM
QuoteMy point is things could be a whole lot worse than Kitna.  I do agree, though that a solid O-line would be nice...And McCown...now that dude can sling the ball...

Yes, Kitna did have a decent year, so I'd agree with that.  He's still never been what we might call a "great" QB, but he does have an upside to be sure.  Just getting back the locker room should really help matters. 

Agreed...the O-Line needs to be fortified.  I hope they have enough money to address that.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 16, 2006, 08:24:13 PM
O-Line very much needed..agreed...but Kitna still not the QB I had hoped for, I had dreams of a big name future hall of famer...dare to dream, we as Lions fans deserve it...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: djkimmel on March 16, 2006, 09:56:41 PM
Okay - weird, but sometimes we do talk about something other than fishing, so here's the one place to do it. Same board rules apply, but talk about whatever you want when you feel the need to be freed... of the fishing constraint that is.

This topic is a good example... just remember the thing about the dangers of politics and religion...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 17, 2006, 06:16:19 AM
Yeah who woulda thunk it???? A string this long about the LIONS on a fishing forum...ya'll are just my kind of people...

so with that anybody play with Barbies when they were a kid.... :-\'? uhhh..well i didn't it..ahh where am i...what...getting faint.....losing concio................._______________________? ?:D

T.G.I.F.? :P
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 17, 2006, 09:32:48 AM
call me crazy but i'm excited about the McCown signing, and I guess it makes the Kitna signing even better, the Lions are getting both of them for Harrignton's money, can't balk at a deal like that.  I'm now thinking Martz will do well with these guys, theoretically with the recievers the Lions have somebody just has to be able to loft the ball up with accuracy, of course I'd buy some extra stickum!! 

At least the Lions are shaking it up and trying to fill the holes...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: Cheetam on March 17, 2006, 10:07:29 AM
Quote from: blakstr1 on March 17, 2006, 09:32:48 AM
call me crazy but i'm excited about the McCown signing, and I guess it makes the Kitna signing even better, the Lions are getting both of them for Harrignton's money, can't balk at a deal like that.? I'm now thinking Martz will do well with these guys, theoretically with the recievers the Lions have somebody just has to be able to loft the ball up with accuracy, of course I'd buy some extra stickum!!?

At least the Lions are shaking it up and trying to fill the holes...
McCown has a big arm...Martz likes to throw the ball downfield...we have big receivers...sounds like a good match.  McCown is used to throwing to talented receivers who can go up and get the ball (Boldin and Fitzgerald)...it might just work.  I'm excited to see how this works out...I still like Kitna though and think he will compete for the starting job...
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: fales on March 17, 2006, 10:20:55 AM
I think we might actually do good in the division without harrington calling the plays. Whether it is Kitna or McCown we will do better but like it has been said before we need the offensive line improved and some good backups on the defensive side because we seem to always lose them to injuries.
Title: Re: Sorry Guys - not about fishing
Post by: blakstr1 on March 17, 2006, 10:36:58 AM
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I'm excited to see how this works out...I still like Kitna though and think he will compete for the starting job...
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most of the succesful teams have two good QB's anyway i like the odds with these 2 guys...maybe they will compliment each other good...