Since there are more of you on GreatLakesBass.com, and an even broader base than the two bass federations, and you've all played BIG parts in moving the MORE FISHING OPPORTUNITY ball forward, I'm thinking about informing as many of you as possible through another medium by having a conference call.
It would just be for existing GreatLakesBass.com members. No mystery listeners. If someone did read about it and join GreatLakesBass.com to participate in the conference call I would have them contact me directly to get participation information so I'm sure they're an interested party who cares about bass fishing, and not just some type of disrupter or completely outside party (there's too much going on in Michigan right now to not expect almost anything). A conference call is more cost and time-effective, and easier to setup than a meeting somewhere.
I was thinking it would be much easier to explain where we're at right now verbally, along with getting some input, comments and opinions from some of you. The purpose wouldn't be to not have the information on the forum where everyone can read, but another option for communicating a complex issue in a format that might help us improve communication and understanding.
If we do it, I'd have to pick an evening date and time, and whoever can make it (if at least a decent minimum) can make it. I don't want to have a pick a date poll, and then a pick a time poll, etc. If worse came to worse, maybe we could try a couple calls. It would be limited duration with a set agenda, and though I'm inviting input, there's only so much time and I'd want as many people as possible to comment about what I share with you, so it would NOT BE an opportunity to go down a completely different road or roads too far (Luke) for it to be worth all of our time. No beating a dead horse. If you want something else altogether right now go work towards it, but not on this call. The forum is available for that.
I have a proposal I need to support but there are many factors down this road including the possible alternatives that may popup, and what to do about it, or even what we can do about it and why. Though this discussion would not be about changing the present proposal it can contain discussion about what may come including alternatives and compromises we might be asked to make, or need to make. There's plenty to talk about without this being another 'here's why I think you're doing it wrong' discussion.
If you're interested in a conference call, please state it on this thread. Even if you don't agree with or like the present proposal that shouldn't keep you from participating. You should participate during this process because we will all live with whatever comes out the other end - hopefully in 2015.
I think it's a great idea. Count me in.
I'd be interested.
I would be more than happy to participate....As long as I'm available when you set it up. If you manage to get a time in the afternoon hours, I'm golden. If I can't participate, I'm sure many of my fellow members will have plenty of support for this cause.
I would like to participate
Ok. Good start. Keep commenting. Probably won't have one until shortly after the New Year, Will give time to talk to our other partners to be more prepared. I'm without power and a big tree is laying on my wires while my my meter and house pipe are laying on the ground at end of all that.
Won't be doing too much typing today. Tomorrow? Don't know yet...
I would also participate as well as help in any other way I am able. I know quite a few other friends of the same mindset as well.
I'm interested in hearing what is planed so count me in.
Okay - thanks! Looks like we should do this. I'd love a good-sized group but would be happy with 8-10 and up.
Keep adding your comments if you're interested so I have an idea of what to expect. I will be sharing the participation information to the people who respond, and any who contact me directly. I may also share the participation information on a members-only post. Depends upon what conference call service seems to be the best choice.
Hello Dan,
I'm interested in joining the call as well.
I'm in for a call.
I'd be interested.
I'm in
Quote from: Firefighter Jeff on December 25, 2013, 10:32:34 AM
I'd be interested.
BTW, I've been talking to some key people about the nonresident fishing license situation. Not sure what we can do yet but I proposed one idea. It might not go anywhere and it wouldn't help anyone who fishes a lot like you. Some people think it's so hard to make changes we can't make any more. But that's not really true. It might be hard but it just takes enough people who want something enough and are willing to work at it to make something happen.
For now, it's another issue with no obvious solution at the moment. Not forgotten. Hopefully, they'll be at least monitoring it based on comments at meetings.
Okay, back to the Michigan bass season. Once I get power and Internet back at the house I can look at scheduling this. If I go much longer without both, it will probably have to be after the Ultimate Fishing Show. That might work anyway since I'm speaking at another group meeting January 14th, and that meeting might add to the conversation.
I wasn't sure if it would be helpful for me to be in on this or not. No amount will keep me from fishing Michigan. I was just sore at the amount of the jump at one time. I'd rather have paid an extra 5 to 10 dollars every few years than the one big jump. I have heard some of my friends that don't quite fish as much in Michigan and I don't think they will buy a license at $75. They could change their minds when the time comes I guess.
It is very helpful to have ANYONE interested in Michigan bass fishing involved, resident or not! You're part of the 589,000 persons who bass fished in Michigan in 2011 (latest USFWS census).
It has been odd talking about the nonresident fishing license issue with people. Right now we are basically at the point where they will probably wait and see how and if the numbers change. If the numbers change a lot, there is an avenue I might pursue to add another license option.
I don't think we can be successful at all if there isn't some fairly obvious indication that the high increase has caused a significant change. It was odd discussing the perceptions from angler feedback about the amount of the increase with the various parties.
Part of what I try to do as often as feasible is to remind people involved in these types of processes that not everyone thinks or feels just like they do. There are other people who do the same but many of the meetings I go to involves reps from major outdoor groups. We all have our groups' positions to support so it doesn't always leave lots of time to discuss these types of issues.
I'm not saying I do a great job, but I DO bring them up as often as possible, and the nonresident license was discussed at several meetings including at least 3 with the people that are involved in final or near final decisions on these types of things.
I still don't have power at home (9th day) though I've heard a rumor there is a crew on my street today... haven't seen them! Once I'm caught back up and can setup this bass season conference call, if it goes well, maybe we can use all of you on GreatLakesBass.com and your diversities on processes like this to create another source of feedback and representatives for change to improve fishing and hunting opportunities. There's a bunch of us and we should be able to use those numbers to press for change.
Sure. I'm in
Shooting for later in the week after the Ultimate Fishing Show. We're back in civilization mostly. The last hanging wire was rehung this morning. Of course, we are in a snow emergency today and prohibited from traveling on the roads except for essential travel...? What the Mayor said.
Good thing I have Internet from home again AND we have 2 whole days before I pack things into the GreatLakesBass.com booth 2411 (~) at the Novi Suburban Collection Showplace. We should have a path through the snow from Lansing to Novi by then.
I have you guys access to provide a call in number once a month.... I dial in the host code and you guys dial in the passcode. Offering up to you guys for free...... I think a 7 -8 or 8-9 pm time frame? Picking a day is toughest, and not everyone will agree.... Lets find out Dan's schedule ?
Lets prepare it ?
I'll look at the schedule after the Tuesday all day meeting in Clare. I have to add 1 or 2 other meetings yet.
Haven't forgotten or given up on this idea. Things have been happening, with some changes in strategy, and several additional meetings. Between the Bassmaster Classic next week and Outdoorama the week after it will have to happen in early March. Maybe I will have better information to share by then? Supposed to be a follow up meeting of the Warmwater Resources Steering Committee scheduled around that time. Not sure yet exactly what we'll be discussing there.
Meanwhile, speaking at the NRC meeting tomorrow about the bass season and bass fishing, and then various outdoor discussion Friday with the Conservation Coalition and some MDNR leadership.
MDNR Fisheries Division chief Jim Dexter is going to the Bassmaster Classic next week to meet with all of us B.A.S.S. federation conservation directors. I last heard the Ohio fish chief and a policy person from Wisconsin were going from our region. Haven't heard if anymore from the Great Lakes are going. I hope a few more decided to go.
It helps to meet, to get to know each other a little better. Find out that we all care about bass, bass fishing and our natural resources as much as anyone else. Find out none of us actually has two heads... or horns... :)
Dan, count me in
Okay. Thanks for coming on board.
I see the latest Bassmaster Classic Conservation Summit list now includes a representative from the Iowa DNR and Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission. I was hoping a few more agencies from the Great Lakes would make it. Maybe some have been added since the last list update.
I was told by the MDNR Fisheries Division Chief Jim Dexter Thursday that we are expected to get the MDNR proposals back at the next Warmwater Resources Steering Committee meeting to be scheduled in March.
Also been told we need to update some legislation. Word is Senator Hansen will introduce the legislation, and as long as MUCC and the bass federations support it, it shouldn't be a big problem to get it passed. This is to allow the NRC to have the legal authority to adjust the bass season equal to the Legislature authority, as Public Act 21 of 2014 intended.
Still working out some bugs to enable that law completely. That's only if we get enough petition signatures (300,000+) to defeat the vote in November by hs us to repeal Public Act 21 taking away scientific management of fish and game...
Waiting on a date for the follow up MDNR Warmwater Resources Steering Committee meeting where Jim Dexter says we'll get the MDNR Fisheries Division proposal(s). Supposed to be soon I was told.